and they lived happily ever after.

ΟUAΤ & officials: *treat Swan Queen horribly*

ΟUΑΤ: *has ratings below 3 mil*

ΟUAT in 2018: *gets cancelled*

Swan Queen in 2018: *wins a poll with 64 pairings, two of which ΟUAT ones and one of them their “canon” pairing for Emma -that got eliminated in the 1st round- & a poll with 6.3 mill votes*

Me:

All of us:

THE END.

Don’t worry. Whatever happened after this - was just a grotesque nightmare. A cautionary tale of sexism, rape culture, heteropatriarchy and blatant homophobia

They’re still living their happily ever after, out there. And forever will.

Sail on, shippers. 😊

Your friendly (well, more or less ;) think-tankers:

              @helebette​  &  @shady-kat​

Hey, @paelmoon

I guess it took us a while to get where you did, years ago. Some would call it stubbornness, some foolishness , but... we absolutely agree on all accounts. Regina Mills, as she was in S1 (from crisp white shirts to HBIC attitude, both of which necessary to concoct that pornographic turnover scene :) was a character larger than life--and that’s what made it so hard to just stop, despite the... offensiveness, intelligence-insulting and all other indignities that followed. But then again, that’s also why this isn’t a final farewell because we’ll still be around in a way and (like yourself? ;) ALWAYS up for a good fic rec? So yes, y’all should--feel free.

*sends airkiss* Thank you! If nothing, then for appreciating the... photoshop work on that sidebar pic. 😊

Your friendly (well, more or less ;) think-tankers:

              @helebette​  &  @shady-kat​

Ok, we tried and we can’t possibly answer all of your PMs, but we are VERY appreciative, as well as humbled and grateful for all your support. So...

PS: Also, by popular demand, the blog shall remain ‘as is’ (meaning, it shan’t be deleted/deactivated) as a sort of an archive of all things OUaT/SWEN, from 2013 till 2017. And if any ‘necromancy’ is to happen, you’ll be the first to know. We’ll be around, so... nothing is impossible. ;)

“Do you like that show?”

“I certainly enjoy the self indulgent version of it I wrote in my head after it began to disappoint me.”

I’ve never felt I had to align with anybody (still don’t) though things have become so fractioned that I feel on the fringe most of the time, which I’m quite happy with.

As for the dumb positivity, I guess that although shady has gone out of her way explaining its meaning, many people like your anon are still getting it wrong and putting many opinions/interpretations/people in the same bucket when they’re not.

A&E sending the wrong message left right and centre with their shitty writing and their blatant queer baiting and certain big egos amongst us (causing division and brainwashing for whatever unhealthy self serving reasons) helping along the way, are to blame for all this mess, ultimately driving away the creative people in the fandom or putting them on a second place when they were the driving force of this fandom from the beginning.

Well, you’ll be missed but after all these years, and I’ve only witnessed half of it, all I can say is that I’m surprised you stayed for as long as you did. I don’t think I’ll hang around for much longer my self.

It’s all become quite tedious, eh? The cliques, the camps, the sides, and basically this whole high-school mentality of ‘our’ little corner of the fandom–forcing people (quite literally, often with ultimatums) who to align with, and bullying those who dare to oppose. All done by these self-appointed fandom ‘leaders’ who garner following and shape the hive mind as… some sort of fucked-up compensation for whatever they’re lacking in their offline lives. (If they have any, that is. *rolls eyes*) And on the other hand if you, sick of observing all of that from the sidelines–try to appeal to common sense and reason and balance between the ‘opposing’ sides, ask for constructive and respectful dialogue–you can easily get an onslaught of other kind of crap, like we did. The.. “oh, is this sudden new public support and protection you offer them because–you’re fucking, now?” ..kind. *rolls eyes* I mean, really?

[And yes, hence choosing not to suggest any balancing, or offer any commentary about dumb positivity (but tagging @anothershadeofgreen just because I can–seeing that evidently I can’t keep my grubby little paws…  *wiggles fingers* …off of you? ;) to this Anon. Because if they wanted to, they could’ve read up. But they didn’t, so… *shrug*]

The saddest thing, though? All the anger and resentment swirling around is so sorely misdirected. Because it’s ALL solely on the showrunners. So it’s THEM who should be getting it. Not the… fanfic and graphics talents who, like you said–have been driven away one by one, leaving this fandom to… well. People who kinda deserve the kind of show they’ve been getting, in the past two years?

Oh, wow. All this…

…support, and y’all have no idea about the extent of the harassment? *whistles* Hot damn, had we known we would’ve exposed this individual to your shocked outrage and ridicule months ago.

Lol.

But seriously, we are… very touched by this support. Or, well. Shock and disgust? *laughs* But you know what they say--people only rain on your parade because they’re jealous of your sun and the... shade you throw? (Yeah, I twisted that one. Sue me ;) So don’t worry. This is all being handled.

But THANK YOU all.

:)

PS. You see, Arsewipe? Yes, you. The one playing blame game veiled into a thick layer of your projected voyeuristic fantasies?

So, the big finale plot ‘twist’ is that we’re going to have to tune in next season–to see the plot twist?

*A & E trying to milk more money from the show by re-doing the best season*

To be fair, it’s not like anyone will ever watch another show by them again. That summer offering of theirs was proof of that. They need to make all the bank they can off of Ouat.

Indeed. That other Once Upon a… Something–failed, then that vapid summer show did too (didn’t watch it because of that article that advertised that LBGT people from loyal Once following should “find a lot for themselves in it”, and yeah, as I heard–there was a dude that came out in the 1st episode… in a youth camp set in the 80s, which–seriously?) so by any logic–they should invest everything they can,  quality and creativity wise–to keep OuAT afloat?

But what did they do?

Got rid of more expensive actors in favour of cheaper ones–and they’re just going to rehash Swan Queen story and finally (finally!) sell it as epic, but only because it’s going to be genderbent and hetero?

And guarantee they’ll be shocked - SHOCKED I TELL YOU - at the blowback over their homophobic double standard because – but it’s Henry!, everyone loves Henry!  

Figuring we’d stupidly just give them a pass for ‘straightening up’ their SQ storyline - and of course announcing it as an epic romance months before it even ends up onscreen. Which, par for the course for their hetero offerings *eye roll*

Well, of course they’d be shocked. I mean, there are already (allegedly ‘SQ positive’) people in the fandom–who do not ‘get’ this outrage now. You know, what’s this new romance (already announced as epic) got to do with Swan Queen and… people being pissed off for being called delusional for six years, only for their ship to be blatantly straightened up and then sold as ‘epic’? But then again those ‘naive’ individuals are Regal Believer Regina stans and basically all multishippers (and these days, it’s got less to do with stanning Regina–and more with their objectifying/dehumanizing Lana Parilla idolatry) but they ARE now starting to endorse and justify this shit too, just like they did with the Pinecone, his randomness, adultery–and ultimate debasement of Regina Mills?

So, yeah. As long as there’s people like that actively working on the ‘hive mind’ in the way of brainwashing people into accepting whatever shit Brothers Dim come up with next as ‘okay’… there’s not going to be ANY blowback, I am afraid.

“I mean, there are already (allegedly ‘SQ positive’) people in the fandom–who do not ‘get’ this outrage now.”

I don’t understand what they don’t understand. They say it’s not the same thing but the scene where Lucy came up to Henry’s door is literally verbatim of the scene in the pilot. This wouldn’t be a problem if eddy hadn’t said Henry would be meeting the mother of his child and falling in love with her calling it an epic romance.

They noted one of the key differences is Regina adopted Henry. What’s funny is they’re one the main people in the fandom who will cry out that Regina is Henry’s real mom. The main ones to cry out Regina is the one who raised him, she has the legal rights, and pushing a baby out doesn’t make a mother and by all accounts they’re right. But all of a sudden adoption is a factor when it comes to justifying this obvious straight washing of SQ.

Oh, absolutely. But to understand why they ‘don’t understand’, we have to start with who they are. It’s the people who started that aggressive ‘I ship Regina with happiness’ thing, and who are the ones to blame for the biggest fandom rift–and ALL of the toxicity that came from their gatekeeping and hive-mind enforcing. But who are ironically here just for the actress, and not the character. Because they project a wee bit too much, and hence all the hypocrisy?

I wonder how well that ‘I ship Regina with happiness’ (insert eyeroll here cuz she doesn’t deserve happiness; she’s a damn fictional character geez) mindset will hold up if hooked queen happens. I’d love to see them work around their hate boners for H00k to make HQ seem like the best thing since sliced bread.

Plus that staying around for an actor/actress thing always strikes me as weird. If a show sucks and you’re one of the main people who complains that it sucks why waste your time with it? It’s strange to watch a show that intentionally insults your intelligence for a person who doesn’t even know who you are. Yea sure Lana is attractive and seems like a nice person but she’s not worth my valuable time to watch a show as foolish as OUAT.

Indeed. And we wouldn’t put it past them to go for Hooked Queen (after Hookers get over Craptain Swan in say… first three episodes, because he’s way to rascally handsome to be single, despite no memories of his beloved Stepford wife in another dimension/reality/whateverthefuck–and hell, they can MarySue through any other female character–they only hated Regina because Swan Queen was a scary threat, no?) because… why the hell not, after Golden Queen? (Which, ugh. I still need to bleach it from my brain.) And then, yes. It’ll be amusing to observe all those hypocrites’ heads starting to explode. If… any of us is still around to gloat, that is.

First three episodes? I’m pretty sure they were over it the moment JMO announced she wasn’t coming back.

Yeah. They do seem as consistent as some of the guys from ‘our’ camp (the Regina/SQ fans, I mean–because they ain’t no friends of ours, no way) who are like… “Oooh, yess! Swan Queen! Acceptance and understanding and hope! Representation! Queerness!”… but then suddenly there’s… “Aww, yess, give us the PeenCone because we ship Regina and happiness so any random tree-log will do” …and now there’s the “Ooh, can we have Dragon Queen then, because why not–anyone will do at this point?” …while the NON-projecting adults among us are like “Huh? Do you need a bib, for all that actress-inspired drool?”

This had me chuckling to myself. I’m all for multi shipping cuz you know, you do you but I am raising my eyebrows at those who so readily jumped on the Dragon Queen bandwagon. Especially when they showed no inclination towards it.

I’m still rolling my eyes at the “I just want Regina to be happy” people. At least the ones who are willing to ship her with every Tom, Dick, and Harry who gets thrown her way (even characters who haven’t been casted). At that point it makes me wonder are they concerned with happiness of a person who doesn’t exist or are they just eager to see Lana make out with someone? Either way it’s a little strange.

I think our...

...Anon here summarized it well. It’s just plain and simple hypocrisy.

I’ve never felt I had to align with anybody (still don’t) though things have become so fractioned that I feel on the fringe most of the time, which I’m quite happy with.

As for the dumb positivity, I guess that although shady has gone out of her way explaining its meaning, many people like your anon are still getting it wrong and putting many opinions/interpretations/people in the same bucket when they’re not.

A&E sending the wrong message left right and centre with their shitty writing and their blatant queer baiting and certain big egos amongst us (causing division and brainwashing for whatever unhealthy self serving reasons) helping along the way, are to blame for all this mess, ultimately driving away the creative people in the fandom or putting them on a second place when they were the driving force of this fandom from the beginning.

Well, you’ll be missed but after all these years, and I’ve only witnessed half of it, all I can say is that I’m surprised you stayed for as long as you did. I don’t think I’ll hang around for much longer my self.

It’s all become quite tedious, eh? The cliques, the camps, the sides, and basically this whole high-school mentality of ‘our’ little corner of the fandom–forcing people (quite literally, often with ultimatums) who to align with, and bullying those who dare to oppose. All done by these self-appointed fandom ‘leaders’ who garner following and shape the hive mind as… some sort of fucked-up compensation for whatever they’re lacking in their offline lives. (If they have any, that is. *rolls eyes*) And on the other hand if you, sick of observing all of that from the sidelines–try to appeal to common sense and reason and balance between the ‘opposing’ sides, ask for constructive and respectful dialogue--you can easily get an onslaught of other kind of crap, like we did. The.. “oh, is this sudden new public support and protection you offer them because–you’re fucking, now?” ..kind. *rolls eyes* I mean, really?

[And yes, hence choosing not to suggest any balancing, or offer any commentary about dumb positivity (but tagging @anothershadeofgreen just because I can--seeing that evidently I can’t keep my grubby little paws...  *wiggles fingers* ...off of you? ;) to this Anon. Because if they wanted to, they could’ve read up. But they didn’t, so… *shrug*]

The saddest thing, though? All the anger and resentment swirling around is so sorely misdirected. Because it’s ALL solely on the showrunners. So it’s THEM who should be getting it. Not the… fanfic and graphics talents who, like you said–have been driven away one by one, leaving this fandom to… well. People who kinda deserve the kind of show they’ve been getting, in the past two years?

So, the big finale plot ‘twist’ is that we’re going to have to tune in next season–to see the plot twist?

*A & E trying to milk more money from the show by re-doing the best season*

To be fair, it’s not like anyone will ever watch another show by them again. That summer offering of theirs was proof of that. They need to make all the bank they can off of Ouat.

Indeed. That other Once Upon a… Something–failed, then that vapid summer show did too (didn’t watch it because of that article that advertised that LBGT people from loyal Once following should “find a lot for themselves in it”, and yeah, as I heard–there was a dude that came out in the 1st episode… in a youth camp set in the 80s, which–seriously?) so by any logic–they should invest everything they can,  quality and creativity wise–to keep OuAT afloat?

But what did they do?

Got rid of more expensive actors in favour of cheaper ones–and they’re just going to rehash Swan Queen story and finally (finally!) sell it as epic, but only because it’s going to be genderbent and hetero?

And guarantee they’ll be shocked - SHOCKED I TELL YOU - at the blowback over their homophobic double standard because – but it’s Henry!, everyone loves Henry!  

Figuring we’d stupidly just give them a pass for ‘straightening up’ their SQ storyline - and of course announcing it as an epic romance months before it even ends up onscreen. Which, par for the course for their hetero offerings *eye roll*

Well, of course they’d be shocked. I mean, there are already (allegedly ‘SQ positive’) people in the fandom–who do not ‘get’ this outrage now. You know, what’s this new romance (already announced as epic) got to do with Swan Queen and… people being pissed off for being called delusional for six years, only for their ship to be blatantly straightened up and then sold as ‘epic’? But then again those ‘naive’ individuals are Regal Believer Regina stans and basically all multishippers (and these days, it’s got less to do with stanning Regina–and more with their objectifying/dehumanizing Lana Parilla idolatry) but they ARE now starting to endorse and justify this shit too, just like they did with the Pinecone, his randomness, adultery–and ultimate debasement of Regina Mills?

So, yeah. As long as there’s people like that actively working on the ‘hive mind’ in the way of brainwashing people into accepting whatever shit Brothers Dim come up with next as ‘okay’… there’s not going to be ANY blowback, I am afraid.

“I mean, there are already (allegedly ‘SQ positive’) people in the fandom–who do not ‘get’ this outrage now.”

I don’t understand what they don’t understand. They say it’s not the same thing but the scene where Lucy came up to Henry’s door is literally verbatim of the scene in the pilot. This wouldn’t be a problem if eddy hadn’t said Henry would be meeting the mother of his child and falling in love with her calling it an epic romance.

They noted one of the key differences is Regina adopted Henry. What’s funny is they’re one the main people in the fandom who will cry out that Regina is Henry’s real mom. The main ones to cry out Regina is the one who raised him, she has the legal rights, and pushing a baby out doesn’t make a mother and by all accounts they’re right. But all of a sudden adoption is a factor when it comes to justifying this obvious straight washing of SQ.

Oh, absolutely. But to understand why they ‘don’t understand’, we have to start with who they are. It’s the people who started that aggressive ‘I ship Regina with happiness’ thing, and who are the ones to blame for the biggest fandom rift–and ALL of the toxicity that came from their gatekeeping and hive-mind enforcing. But who are ironically here just for the actress, and not the character. Because they project a wee bit too much, and hence all the hypocrisy?

I wonder how well that ‘I ship Regina with happiness’ (insert eyeroll here cuz she doesn’t deserve happiness; she’s a damn fictional character geez) mindset will hold up if hooked queen happens. I’d love to see them work around their hate boners for H00k to make HQ seem like the best thing since sliced bread.

Plus that staying around for an actor/actress thing always strikes me as weird. If a show sucks and you’re one of the main people who complains that it sucks why waste your time with it? It’s strange to watch a show that intentionally insults your intelligence for a person who doesn’t even know who you are. Yea sure Lana is attractive and seems like a nice person but she’s not worth my valuable time to watch a show as foolish as OUAT.

Indeed. And we wouldn’t put it past them to go for Hooked Queen (after Hookers get over Craptain Swan in say… first three episodes, because he’s way to rascally handsome to be single, despite no memories of his beloved Stepford wife in another dimension/reality/whateverthefuck–and hell, they can MarySue through any other female character–they only hated Regina because Swan Queen was a scary threat, no?) because… why the hell not, after Golden Queen? (Which, ugh. I still need to bleach it from my brain.) And then, yes. It’ll be amusing to observe all those hypocrites’ heads starting to explode. If… any of us is still around to gloat, that is.

First three episodes? I’m pretty sure they were over it the moment JMO announced she wasn’t coming back.

Yeah. They do seem as consistent as some of the guys from ‘our’ camp (the Regina/SQ fans, I mean--because they ain’t no friends of ours, no way) who are like... “Oooh, yess! Swan Queen! Acceptance and understanding and hope! Representation! Queerness!”... but then suddenly there’s... “Aww, yess, give us the PeenCone because we ship Regina and happiness so any random tree-log will do” ...and now there’s the “Ooh, can we have Dragon Queen then, because why not--anyone will do at this point?” ...while the NON-projecting adults among us are like “Huh? Do you need a bib, for all that actress-inspired drool?”

So, the big finale plot ‘twist’ is that we’re going to have to tune in next season–to see the plot twist?

*A & E trying to milk more money from the show by re-doing the best season*

To be fair, it’s not like anyone will ever watch another show by them again. That summer offering of theirs was proof of that. They need to make all the bank they can off of Ouat.

Indeed. That other Once Upon a… Something–failed, then that vapid summer show did too (didn’t watch it because of that article that advertised that LBGT people from loyal Once following should “find a lot for themselves in it”, and yeah, as I heard–there was a dude that came out in the 1st episode… in a youth camp set in the 80s, which–seriously?) so by any logic–they should invest everything they can,  quality and creativity wise–to keep OuAT afloat?

But what did they do?

Got rid of more expensive actors in favour of cheaper ones–and they’re just going to rehash Swan Queen story and finally (finally!) sell it as epic, but only because it’s going to be genderbent and hetero?

And guarantee they’ll be shocked - SHOCKED I TELL YOU - at the blowback over their homophobic double standard because – but it’s Henry!, everyone loves Henry!  

Figuring we’d stupidly just give them a pass for ‘straightening up’ their SQ storyline - and of course announcing it as an epic romance months before it even ends up onscreen. Which, par for the course for their hetero offerings *eye roll*

Well, of course they’d be shocked. I mean, there are already (allegedly ‘SQ positive’) people in the fandom–who do not ‘get’ this outrage now. You know, what’s this new romance (already announced as epic) got to do with Swan Queen and… people being pissed off for being called delusional for six years, only for their ship to be blatantly straightened up and then sold as ‘epic’? But then again those ‘naive’ individuals are Regal Believer Regina stans and basically all multishippers (and these days, it’s got less to do with stanning Regina–and more with their objectifying/dehumanizing Lana Parilla idolatry) but they ARE now starting to endorse and justify this shit too, just like they did with the Pinecone, his randomness, adultery–and ultimate debasement of Regina Mills?

So, yeah. As long as there’s people like that actively working on the ‘hive mind’ in the way of brainwashing people into accepting whatever shit Brothers Dim come up with next as ‘okay’… there’s not going to be ANY blowback, I am afraid.

“I mean, there are already (allegedly ‘SQ positive’) people in the fandom–who do not ‘get’ this outrage now.”

I don’t understand what they don’t understand. They say it’s not the same thing but the scene where Lucy came up to Henry’s door is literally verbatim of the scene in the pilot. This wouldn’t be a problem if eddy hadn’t said Henry would be meeting the mother of his child and falling in love with her calling it an epic romance.

They noted one of the key differences is Regina adopted Henry. What’s funny is they’re one the main people in the fandom who will cry out that Regina is Henry’s real mom. The main ones to cry out Regina is the one who raised him, she has the legal rights, and pushing a baby out doesn’t make a mother and by all accounts they’re right. But all of a sudden adoption is a factor when it comes to justifying this obvious straight washing of SQ.

Oh, absolutely. But to understand why they ‘don’t understand’, we have to start with who they are. It’s the people who started that aggressive ‘I ship Regina with happiness’ thing, and who are the ones to blame for the biggest fandom rift–and ALL of the toxicity that came from their gatekeeping and hive-mind enforcing. But who are ironically here just for the actress, and not the character. Because they project a wee bit too much, and hence all the hypocrisy?

I wonder how well that ‘I ship Regina with happiness’ (insert eyeroll here cuz she doesn’t deserve happiness; she’s a damn fictional character geez) mindset will hold up if hooked queen happens. I’d love to see them work around their hate boners for H00k to make HQ seem like the best thing since sliced bread.

Plus that staying around for an actor/actress thing always strikes me as weird. If a show sucks and you’re one of the main people who complains that it sucks why waste your time with it? It’s strange to watch a show that intentionally insults your intelligence for a person who doesn’t even know who you are. Yea sure Lana is attractive and seems like a nice person but she’s not worth my valuable time to watch a show as foolish as OUAT.

Indeed. And we wouldn’t put it past them to go for Hooked Queen (after Hookers get over Craptain Swan in say... first three episodes, because he’s way to rascally handsome to be single, despite no memories of his beloved Stepford wife in another dimension/reality/whateverthefuck--and hell, they can MarySue through any other female character--they only hated Regina because Swan Queen was a scary threat, no?) because... why the hell not, after Golden Queen? (Which, ugh. I still need to bleach it from my brain.) And then, yes. It’ll be amusing to observe all those hypocrites’ heads starting to explode. If... any of us is still around to gloat, that is.

So, the big finale plot ‘twist’ is that we’re going to have to tune in next season–to see the plot twist?

*A & E trying to milk more money from the show by re-doing the best season*

To be fair, it’s not like anyone will ever watch another show by them again. That summer offering of theirs was proof of that. They need to make all the bank they can off of Ouat.

Indeed. That other Once Upon a… Something–failed, then that vapid summer show did too (didn’t watch it because of that article that advertised that LBGT people from loyal Once following should “find a lot for themselves in it”, and yeah, as I heard–there was a dude that came out in the 1st episode… in a youth camp set in the 80s, which–seriously?) so by any logic–they should invest everything they can,  quality and creativity wise–to keep OuAT afloat?

But what did they do?

Got rid of more expensive actors in favour of cheaper ones–and they’re just going to rehash Swan Queen story and finally (finally!) sell it as epic, but only because it’s going to be genderbent and hetero?

And guarantee they’ll be shocked - SHOCKED I TELL YOU - at the blowback over their homophobic double standard because – but it’s Henry!, everyone loves Henry!  

Figuring we’d stupidly just give them a pass for ‘straightening up’ their SQ storyline - and of course announcing it as an epic romance months before it even ends up onscreen. Which, par for the course for their hetero offerings *eye roll*

Well, of course they’d be shocked. I mean, there are already (allegedly ‘SQ positive’) people in the fandom–who do not ‘get’ this outrage now. You know, what’s this new romance (already announced as epic) got to do with Swan Queen and… people being pissed off for being called delusional for six years, only for their ship to be blatantly straightened up and then sold as ‘epic’? But then again those ‘naive’ individuals are Regal Believer Regina stans and basically all multishippers (and these days, it’s got less to do with stanning Regina–and more with their objectifying/dehumanizing Lana Parilla idolatry) but they ARE now starting to endorse and justify this shit too, just like they did with the Pinecone, his randomness, adultery–and ultimate debasement of Regina Mills?

So, yeah. As long as there’s people like that actively working on the ‘hive mind’ in the way of brainwashing people into accepting whatever shit Brothers Dim come up with next as ‘okay’… there’s not going to be ANY blowback, I am afraid.

“I mean, there are already (allegedly ‘SQ positive’) people in the fandom–who do not ‘get’ this outrage now.”

I don’t understand what they don’t understand. They say it’s not the same thing but the scene where Lucy came up to Henry’s door is literally verbatim of the scene in the pilot. This wouldn’t be a problem if eddy hadn’t said Henry would be meeting the mother of his child and falling in love with her calling it an epic romance.

They noted one of the key differences is Regina adopted Henry. What’s funny is they’re one the main people in the fandom who will cry out that Regina is Henry’s real mom. The main ones to cry out Regina is the one who raised him, she has the legal rights, and pushing a baby out doesn’t make a mother and by all accounts they’re right. But all of a sudden adoption is a factor when it comes to justifying this obvious straight washing of SQ.

Oh, absolutely. But to understand why they ‘don’t understand’, we have to start with who they are. It’s the people who started that aggressive 'I ship Regina with happiness’ thing, and who are the ones to blame for the biggest fandom rift--and ALL of the toxicity that came from their gatekeeping and hive-mind enforcing. But who are ironically here just for the actress, and not the character. Because they project a wee bit too much, and hence all the hypocrisy?