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The Script Economist

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Hi guys,

So you might have noticed a distinct dearth of posts from this blog in the last...forever. In short, life is busy, further education is busier and I just don't have time to properly run this blog.

As such, I'm leaving the blog. I won't delete anything, hell, maybe I'll even come back to it when I've finished this degree, but right now it's just not feasible. I'm pretty dang sad to be leaving the ScriptFam, especially at the dawn of NaNo, but you gotta do what you gotta do.

Peace out kiddos, and remember that currency has certain functions that must be fulfilled (since that was 90% of this blog in the first place 😅😉)

xx

On replicating the Great Depression for a speculative fiction novel

Hey there! I’m sorry to bother you, but I didn’t find anything related to my question on your blog search. I’m writing a novel set in a near-future US where I’d like to replicate some of the social and economic conditions of the Great Depression. How could this happen in a modern US economy? Should/could it be similar to the 2008 real estate bubble crisis?  What states might be better or worse off, socially and financially, in this scenario? Also, most of my main characters are professionals (e.g. two professors at a small East Coast university and a graphic designer): would they all be likely to lose their jobs? Thanks in advance!

I'm really sorry, but I've never studied the Great Depression in enough detail to answer this to a level I would be satisfied with as a Script Blog. My usual American economics touchstone is on hiatus, and as a European I've always focused on subjects closer to home. I could tell you about the effects of the depression on Weimar Germany in great detail, but I never studied the impact on America itself despite it being the epicentre. Nevertheless, I'll quickly cycle through your various questions and try to give you help in the areas I can actually help.

As to how another depression could be caused, the honest answer is that it tends to be caused by something different every time. As bad as humans are about learning from our mistakes, legislation tends to be passed in the aftermath (*stares angrily at Trump for intending to repeal Dodd-Frank*) that stops the exact same issue causing a recession. Thus, I wouldn't recommend the same bank lending issues (the Credit Crunch) that caused the 2008 recession. However, the current smart money is one a crash caused by people being unable to repay automotive and student loans in the Western world, and with that as a cause I believe you could reasonably accurately punch the effects of the 2008 recession and apply them however deeply you need for your story. Remember, economics is largely a speculative guessing game when applied to the future, so any assumptions you make can't be disproven unless they're massively massively out of order!

I honestly know nothing about the US states, to the extent that I'm not actually sure if there are fifty or fifty one, so I have no idea which would be worst affected. My very general advice would be that poor states with large debt burdens would be the worst affected, but you'd have to find an American economist if you're looking for a state-by-state breakdown.

There's an old adage that runs: a downturn is when some people lose their jobs, a recession is when the neighbours lose their jobs and a depression is when the economists lose their jobs! For the purposes of your story I'd leave it up to you as to whether your characters lose their jobs. You are the one who gets to decide how essential their jobs are to their company, and indeed if the company they work for is likely to fail due to inbuilt weaknesses. If you need the drama, get them laid off; if not, you can make up reasons why they're still employed! Remember, in fiction you can make the depression as deep as you like, fire who you like, remove the life savings (via a collapsing stock market) of who you like. Go wild!

I hope this helps somewhat despite my lack of expertise in the area! Researching the causes and effects of the Great Depression and the 2008 recession will stand you in as good a stead as anyone else, considering no one, not even the greatest economists, has a crystal ball to look into the future. Good luck in your writing endeavours! xx

I'm sorry if this is not your stuff or hard to answer. So, I'm planning a scifi story happening in a generation ship. The ship was packed full of farm animals, eatable plants, and stuff they'll need to make a new colony, and then of course, a lor of humans. I'm wondering what they might use for money? Since it seems kinda unlikely to me that they'd use what we think of as "real money", because the ship is full already even without a thing that makes money. So do you have any ideas? Thank you! :)

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Digital money? I don’t know if you’re counting digital money as ‘real money’, or if you’re merely constituting that as physical notes and coins, but it seems to me that -if you don’t want a post-capitalism society that has forsaken money altogether- digital money is an easy way to go.

Attach an account to people’s ID cards, and use scanners to both accept wages by transfer and spend money on goods and services. This is both lightweight and doesn’t take up much space, and I’m assuming by that point technology will hopefully have advanced to the point where such chips and scanners would be minuscule. If you wanted, you could even have the chips embedded in people’s arms, a futuristic technology that we’re coming into already!

I hope this helps you out! xx

So, I’m building a setting that involves certain areas of the world trading in “favors” instead of in hard currency; favors are traded as unique coins minted by each individual, with larger coins indicating a larger “favor”. Smaller coins are generally treated as straight-up currency for everyone’s convenience, but larger coins are almost exclusively traded as actual favors: “I give you this token of a favor in exchange for this painstakingly handcrafted bow, with the understanding that I now owe you something intangible and that you trust me to honor this debt.”
The general idea is that the further from the hoity-toity regions you get, the less value your actual money has, until eventually “currency” is almost entirely supplanted by a region-wide “honor system”, effectively putting traditionally rich persons at a disadvantage because they haven’t been around long enough for anyone to trust that they’ll honor their own favor tokens. Obviously the reverse is also true; if these people tried to trade their favor tokens in the Big City, they’d be bounced right out of town, but that’s less of a concern.
In your own experience in studying economics, how well could such a system work without/before collapsing? Obviously the larger the social group using the system, the greater the likelihood of a few bad apples ruining everything for everyone, but I imagine that in extremely insular communities, it’d be less of a problem.
[Sorry for the long submit; it was too long for Ask without sending like eight of them]

It’s perfectly alright to send long asks through the submit! I’d rather have enough information than have to make assumptions or simply despair when I have no idea what the asker means or wants from me. I’ve been dying to answer this ask for ages because I like this concept. I like it a lot. And I really wanted to say that before I start to tear it apart.

(If I don’t make a currency masterpost at some point, somebody come and beat me with a broom).

The immediate problems I can see are: minting the coins, one bad apple ruining everything, big favours ending up on the other side of the country (trade) and no-one knowing if they can be trusted, and people being unable to fulfill a favour (i.e. asking a poor blacksmith for a fully trained warhorse). I’ll break them down a little to try and better convey what I’m getting at.

Minting the coins: if everyone is minting their own coins, you’re going to have a problem. Besides the usual economies of scale making large-scale coin minting by one institution far more monetarily viable, minting coins is dang hard. It takes a lot of metal, specialist equipment and people to oversee the process to mint coins, and your average farmer isn’t going to have that going on in their backyard. Even having an area mint isn’t of that much use when every individual has to have a different imprint on their coins.

One bad apple: your system is, fundamentally, built on trust. So is our modern day currency to be fair -we trust that our little bits of paper and metal will continue to hold their entirely arbitrary value. But your system has an extra level wherein the people have to trust each other, as well as the arbitrary value of currency. I’m sure you know at least one asshole who would renegade on their debts: I certainly do. People that declare themselves bankrupt three times to get out of paying debts, people who run off. For that matter, what happens if somebody dies with debts unpaid? Do their descendents have to fulfill the promises made? You’re definitely right in that there is incidence of insular communities honouring debts, such as with microfinancing in rural Bangladesh, but that mainly works because the community as a whole repays the debt of the few bad apples/failures in order to keep access to more future loans.

Trade: I buy some carrots with my coin. The market seller pays his supplier with it; the farmer uses it in conjunction with others to buy equipment from a state/county over; that supplier uses it to buy his daughter a silk dress from eight towns over. If the end person wants to reclaim the favour from me, how do they know where and who it came from? Is it worth them coming all the way over to where I live to reclaim it? Or are your coins untradeable after the first trade, which brings its own set of problems.

Unable to fulfill a request: if you’ve ever worked in customer service, you’ll know people can be ridiculous. You might work at a lemonade stand, but that duck people will not stop asking you for grapes. I’m willing to bet that even with this coin system, you will get someone asking an amateur blacksmith for a fully trained warhorse and a crossbow on the back of two ‘big favour’ coins. You might think the economy works on common sense, but in reality it’s just chaos, idiocy and big old machines (in your case, possibly without the machines). I can almost guarantee that people absolutely would do this to their fellows, which...yeah, not good.

I'm so sorry this took so long to answer (exams and hiatus are a double bitch), but overall I think you've got a solid enough system that you could pull of with a bit of tweaking, hand waving and ‘not everything irl makes sense either’. You've got non-degradable currency and an appreciation that trust works differently in rural areas, so you've got a strong enough base to leap from. I hope this can still be of some use even though it's so late, and thank you for such an interesting question xx

Anonymous asked:

Hi! I'm the anon who gave you the super vague question on the money creating aliens. There's about 500k aliens, and the 3% are printing millions of American dollars. While it can happen within a day, they're drained by time they're finished, and take 3-4 weeks to recharge. While it can pass for real money, there's a limited amount of time that conjured objects to exist, give or take, 6-8 months, without constant replacement. Hope I gave you enough info!

Welcome back, friendly anon! I originally nearly Rule of Reality’d you again, but the wonderful @scriptaccountant pointed out some ways I can still help you out. (Note: I’m still technically on hiatus but I’ve managed to scrape up a spare thirty minutes, so let’s see if I can actually answer some asks).

3% of 500k is 15,000 aliens, give or take a few for biological fluctuations. If each alien prints $1m a day they’re throwing around $15bn a month at the economy; after 6 to 8 months the money supply should stabilize as the disintegrating money is matched by more new money from the aliens, and they cancel themselves out.

However, in the short term, you’re likely to end up with some pretty hard core inflation. For one thing, if your aliens simply show up out of nowhere and start raining down bills like gangsters in a strip club, no government or financial institution is going to have preparations in place to prevent a hike in inflation. Whether you look at it from a Keynesian perspective (more money in people’s pockets means more spending which pushes up prices; basically, too much money chasing too few goods) or a monetarist perspective (increasing the money supply inherently causes inflation because of mv=pq), you’re going to wind up with some potentially massive short term inflation. For the absolute worst end of the spectrum, look up hyperinflation in the Weimar Republic and Zimbabwe -this should give you some ideas of the negative effects your aliens might cause via huge inflation.

The disappearing money is also likely to cause problems throughout the whole economy. Imagine if you wanted to sell your old school textbooks: would you accept cash for it, knowing that the cash might disappear two minutes after you made the transaction? Would a bank accept a cash deposit knowing that it might disappear three weeks after it goes into the vault? Would a corner shop or supermarket accept cash in exchange for your groceries? Money only works because we believe in it, and if that belief dries up, so might our common usage of money. If the destruction of faith is bad enough, we could end up back at a bartering system, because at least those tomatoes you traded for those eggs won’t magically disappear.

I hope some of this has (finally) helped you out. I’m afraid I can’t tell you exactly how much inflation there would be, because that’s a wild guessing game for economists much cleverer and more experienced than I. Nevertheless, I don’t think anyone is going to call you out if you guesstimate some hyperinflation, mainly because they have no way to prove you and your cash-generating aliens wrong. What are they going to do, start a study? Somehow, I think not.xx

Anonymous asked:

How does the economy change when private corporations have the government in their pocket? (Especially globally, happening in many different countries but not all.)

I’m afraid, my dear Anon, that this is one of those questions that would have greatly benefitted from being asked off anon. I know that’s not really an option for some people, but I could really do with narrowing this down before I attempt to answer.

Is this a worldbuilding question for a fantasy/sci fi novel or are you asking about the modern day? Are you asking from a perspective of ‘big private corporations already have governments in their pockets right now in the real world’, or are you asking what would hypothetically happen if this occurred irl? (Disclaimer: I’m not willing to disclose my opinion on which one I believe because I don’t want to attract the resultant drama either way). Is this one big megacorp pulling the strings of lots of national governments? A conglomerate controlling lots of governments? Separate or rival companies controlling separate/rival governments? Plus, and perhaps most importantly, how deep does the control of the companies go? Are they blackmailing heads of state, or using legal methods such as lobbying or funding the campaigns of their preferred candidates?

Moreover, which aspects of the economy do you want me to talk about? Is it companies lobbying for fewer workers’ rights so they can pay less wages, pensions, sick pay and maternity etc. and make higher profits? Are they so in control that they can make governments legislate to outlaw their rivals? More importantly, what do these companies actually want? Higher profits? Political control? State-funded space travel and green energy in a belated attempt to save the human race?

This is a very interesting question and I’m very glad you asked it. You could base entire novels off this premise in a variety of genres, and I have hope that my incessant questions might spark off a few ideas. But as it is, I’m afraid this is all I can offer for now.

Good luck, and feel free to send a follow up question!xx

What happened to @scripteconomist ?

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Hey! She’s still around, she’s just on temporary hiatus because of school stuff. Her relevant post is here, although she’s posted a couple of updates since this went up, so I’m not sure if she’s just working slowly or if things have gotten better.

xoxo, Aunt Scripty

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I am here, I swear! I'm just working so slowly because of school that I might as well be on hiatus; I've got a couple of asks I'm excited to sink my teeth into, but the exams I'm revising for are in June and with Camp NaNo currently eating up all my spare time...yeah. Feel free to send in any asks, I'm just not promising a response until July! Thanks for your patience xx

Anonymous asked:

So in my series, there are magical aliens, about the size of a small country, that have escaped to Earth from a warlord, around the early 1980's. One of their powers is to create and destroy things, including money. I've figured out ways to combat that, but let's say 3% of them slip through the cracks and make money. How bad would the inflation be?

You have my apologies for this, dear anon, but on this one I’m going to have to borrow

Aunty Scripty’s Rule Of Reality

and say that if you broke it, you’re going to have to fix it. This is simply too far away from the real world for me to even have a guess at what might happen. Your story idea certainly sounds interesting, but I have to ask: 3% of how many aliens? 3% of 9 billion aliens is rather different than 3% of 90.

Moreover to that: how much money? How fast can they create it? How accurate is it, could it pass for real money or is it obviously fake? Why are they creating earth money? Which currencies are they creating? Do they even have a concept of money, or inflation for that matter? Are they creating it secretly or blasting pound coins at Margaret Thatcher’s face on national television?

I try not to invoke Aunty’s rule because I know a lot of writing questions for an economist are going to be far out of the usual range of supply and demand (and the rule also doesn’t belong to me), but in this case I have a) absolutely no idea and b) permission to borrow the rule.

I wish you all the luck with your inflation-creating aliens! (And trust me, if they’re creating rapid inflation in the UK or the US in the 1980s, Reagan and Thatcher are going to be after their extra-terrestrial asses so fast the poor blighters won’t know what hit them). Happy writing!xx

Anonymous asked:

Hello! So I know you're British, and I'm not sure how much to ask for concerning American economics, but my question might be kind of universal. I have a character that works in the stock market (probably really high up, like on Wall Street), and she's kind of "friends" with the CEO of a highly advanced company. How much information would she be allowed to give about stocks before it's illegal, and if she does give illegal info, how would she and the CEO pursue stocks without being found out?

(Hi again, I’m the anon who just sent an ask about the stock market and giving stocks info- I forgot to mention that I’m curious about stock markets globally, not just American stocks necessarily, because the CEO my character is friends with runs an international company. Can companies buy stocks the same way an individual can? What about buying international stocks, or being involved in stocks on a global scale? How can international stock trends be predicted? Thanks!)

So this has taken a long while for me to get around to answering, for which I would like to apologise. To be honest, beyond the theoretical concepts and the basics, stocks and shares really aren’t my area of expertise. You can study a lot of areas under the banner of economics and maybe you can study this in more depth, but I’ve always been more of a big picture economist and I’m pretty (though not 100%) sure that this ask technically comes under finance. Nevertheless, I’ve cajoled and harassed some of my fund manager contacts into providing some circumstantial thoughts, though I can’t say that this is up to my usual fact-checked standards! I hope this can still help you out somewhat.

According to my sources, illegal information constitutes anything that can be conceived as giving an investor an advantage. This can be anything from the retirement/departure of an important employee, to a new product: I got a lot of rants about compliance being entirely unprintable words extremely inane about literally any information being shared. But as far as I can tell, you have to do something pretty bad to actually get arrested: you can google ‘insider trading’ for more detail on actual criminal behaviour in this area. Basically, leaking any information that could potentially affect the share price can be classed as insider trading, even if (for dramatic literary reasons) you probably want some big juicy piece of information, like say an Apple-equivalent company being about to announce a brand new product, for your MC to get involved with.

As far as I know, companies can buy stocks in the same way as an individual can. They can both buy shares in other companies (known as a stake; they can also use this method to take over other companies by buying a controlling stake) and in their own companies. The latter may especially be of interest to you, as a decision by your CEO to buy back shares in their own company should decrease supply and therefore push up prices -foreknowledge of this could make your character very wealthy if they could get away with buying the shares just before the company announces plans to buy the shares back themselves. Then, either your MC can sell her shares directly to the company for more than she spent buying them, or she can hang on to them as the prices increase and sell them later, again for a profit. 

As for stock exchanges, every/most countries tend to have their own stock exchange, with companies that originated in that nation being listed (i.e. where you buy shares in that company) in their country of origin. However, I understand that London, New York and Hong Kong are all considered international stock exchanges too, and so huge international firms from a smaller country may choose to list at one of these exchanges as well as the one in their home nation. Mergers between firms of different national origins can complicate matters, but let’s not wander too far down that rabbit hole. 

And as for predicting international share prices, it’s the same as with predicting domestic share prices: skill, experience and luck. There are massive sections of the financial sector dedicated to this practice, including fund managers, hedgefunds and many other obscure jobs I’m sure neither of us have ever heard of. I’m afraid there’s no surefire way or brilliant trick for predicting trends that your character can use: unsurprisingly, it’s a lot easier to make money through insider trading than legally playing the markets. On the flip side, if your character does make a lot of money through insider trading, they can always hide behind the excuse that they’re just very, very lucky.

I hope this somewhat vague answer can help you out, and if my followers have any suggestions or corrections, I am more than ever open to hearing themxx

Hiatus

Heya guys, this is just a short lil announcement to let you all know that the sole mod of this blog has big exams coming up, and I’m having to work harder than I’ve ever worked before. I’ve talked with the rest of the ScriptFam and I’ve decided to put this blog on a semi-hiatus. I won’t be closing the ask box, but I will most certainly be very slow at answering any questions (not that I haven’t been so far anyway).

So if you have questions, you should feel free to send them in! My inbox is currently empty, but please remember, it could be months before you get an answer. I should hopefully be back in July, but then I’m going on holiday for weeks with no Internet, so you have been warned. 

(PS. If you send in an ask off-anon, you have a much better chance of getting an answer because a) I’ll feel more guilty about not answering and b) even if I don’t have the time to properly formulate a full answer I can shoot you a few thoughts in the ol’ message chat.)

Happy writing! xx

Hello, So in a story I'm working a major part of the economy is run on the backs of slaves, but suddenly due to a mass liberation a large portion of the slave population would be freed without their masters knowing. what kind of effect would that have on a market?

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To borrow a line from Hamilton ‘your debts are paid ‘cause you don’t pay for labour’. Slave labour is shitty, awful, and robs people of every right and freedom they deserve as human beings. But I’m not here to discuss that, I’m here to discuss the economics of the situation, so let us -for a moment- put our morals aside and dive down into it.

Slave labour was used precisely because it is largely free labour. There is the original purchasing cost, but that is negligible compared to the productivity of a slave across their lifetime. A slave will earn a great deal of money for their owner, more than any paid worker simply because the cost of their wages doesn’t take a cut out of the money they earn for the company.

If there is a mass liberation of slaves, their owners will have a sudden, massive lack of labour. Not only will they suddenly have to pay people to work in their fields/factories, which will take a big cut of their profits, but their former slaves might refuse to work for them at all. Would you work for someone that bought you, and had you whipped and beaten into compliance? I certainly wouldn’t.

If they don’t work, nothing gets produced until the bosses can get a new workforce in, which can take days or weeks or even months depending on how quickly they can hire and ship in new workers. If the ex-slaves do work but insist on being paid wages, the costs of producing any goods or services that once relied on their free labour is going to increase, massively in the case of labour intensive goods such as sugar and cotton. This will cause a big increase in prices, and will most likely lead to inflation. You’ve also suddenly got a lot more people with their own money looking to rent, buy clothes and furniture, so with a lot more demand and the same or less in supply, those prices are going to increase too, also leading to inflation.

I’m slightly confused as to how the slaves would be freed without their masters knowing, but they could and probably would be freed without their masters’ consent. Nevetheless, that part of your world isn’t up to me, so I hope this helped you out. Happy writing!xx

hi, I sent scriptaccountant a question and they said you might be more help as you are in the uk! basically, do you have any idea how to work out someone's cost of living, if they have expensive tastes and live in London (I'm not in the uk)? I've been looking at cost of living websites but they seem to be geared towards people trying to save money, and for this character that's not a big concern (you may be familiar with a fictional character with a neverending supply of aston martins?) thanks!

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I’m afraid this answer might be a tad short because I’m really not sure what to tell you. Depending on how much money you have, living costs can continue to spiral on upwards forever: think £30million private jets. Are they a necessary living cost? No. But do they technically count towards that person’s cost of living? Yup.

However, let’s say our dear totally-not-James-Bond is an MI6 agent who’s been on duty for 5-10 years, and so is on a salary of £40,000 grand a year. Our dear not-Bond also seems to have quite possibly inherited some money from his family estate, but since I can’t currently quantify that let’s set it aside for now.

Let’s also assume -because there’s no way he can afford a house and cars that nice on £40,000 a year- that MI6 pay for his lodgings and transport. Rent and transport takes up a lot of most people’s wages, so I suspect he’ll have a lot of money left over for designer suits and martinis.

If you need this information for a fic, for registering his expenses or whatnot, I have a sneaky tip: make it up. As long as it’s within the realm of reason I doubt anyone would notice. Call it £36,759.67 and have someone make a joke about his expensive taste in Armani suits, have him retort the cost of his suits is nothing compared to the martinis he drowns his sorrows in. I suspect -though obviously I don’t know- that you might be overthinking this: I severely doubt anyone is going to start fact checking your expenses calculations!

Apologies that this took so long, and I wish you luck handling that neverending supply of Aston Martinsxx

I have this magic alt-world with generic capitalism, and I know that at one point a Cool Dude created a building specifically for homeless people with small rooms and magically sustained utilities. I was considering making this building magically infinite (a bigger challenge for the dude but possible) and I was wondering how it'd affect the economy to have infinite free housing? would it destroy capitalism or just change prices? how would effects on the housing market affect the average Joe?

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This is a difficult one. While your guy is a certified Cool Dude™ and I applaud them wholeheartedly, if your characters can do stuff like this on a whim, I think they’ll end up at least partially breaking the economy.

The problem can be explained through one of the very basics of economics: supply and demand. Ignoring complicating factors, infinite free supply of a good or service means no-one is going to be willing to pay money for the same product. So if your infinite housing is of good quality, absolutely no-one will be willing to pay money for housing. However, since you’ve said that the rooms are small, people may be willing to cough up more money in the traditional housing market for more space/rooms/nicer facilities etc.

Now, obviously this isn’t something that could happen in the real world, so everything I’m suggesting is educated guessing. But I’d say it wouldn’t be unreasonable to see two parallel markets forming: your guy’s free but small rooms, and the bigger fancier suburb-style houses of the rich. After all, it would save governments a lot of money if they could refuse to pay for council housing/rent benefits by funnelling people into infinite free housing. I suspect you’d get the middle/upper classes living in their own homes, with a great deal of poorly paid single mothers/students/homeless people/working class families in this magical housing. As a result of this poor quality, shoddy and over-priced but grim housing will probably have no market, as people will simply move into the free housing.

And if people who usually struggle to make the rent suddenly have a lot of money to spend, that should give a big boost to other areas of the economy. Thousands of extra pounds per family could go to new cars, nicer clothes, better quality groceries, more toys and gadgets etc. etc. all of which will help consumption and economic growth.

I’m really struggling to argue that this would greatly affect the housing market for the average Joe that can afford his own accommodation that’s nicer than the free stuff. It might make it a little cheaper due to slightly less demand, but I honestly don’t know. Your world, your rules I guess.

I hope this helped you out somewhat! Good luck in your writing pursuits, and high five your Cool Dude™ for me!xx

Say, an emp bomb crashed the economy, by turning all those pretty ones and zeros into plain old zeros and every last shred of digital money was gone for good -- how would that go down? What would go down first? Would there be anyone to benefit from it (at least for a while)? How would the government possibly reestablish order? (They did with lots of police and districts within cities eventually, but like the first few weeks/months were everything is chaos and people go nuts.)

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Okay, you guys are really into destroying the digital economy! Which –disclaimer– is something I’ve never studied. All those ones and zeroes, that binary code that binds the world together? I’ve no got a clue how it works. Nothing, nada. I can’t even code well enough to edit a tumblr theme, so the complexities of the computers that run the digital economy are a total mystery to me. Plus, the complete destruction of digital money? Not something I can research here, either.

But! This is where the magical, beautiful majesty that is the rest of the ScriptFam steps in to help out, in this case namely @scriptaccountant and @scripthacker.

Hacker says (paraphrased by Econ):

First off, it’s highly unlikely that an EMP could destroy every piece of digital information pertinent to the digital economy. EMP-shielded electronics are a thing, and while a lot of information that isn’t properly protected would be lost, big banks and corporations tend to invest a lot of money in protecting their data.

Likewise, most governments will have protected electronics, to prevent against an EMP-style attack from a foreign nation if nothing else. Remember, a lot of big banks, corporations and governments trade on the back of their credibility: would you give your money to a bank you thought might lose it? I certainly wouldn’t. So these big organisation likely have very well protected electronics, and paper back-ups to boot.

Accountant says (again paraphrased by yours truly):

As far as the disappearance of everyone’s money goes, that information (paychecks, bills etc.) should actually be covered by good accounting practices wherein the banks etc. should have hard copies of everything plus backups off-site for digital files.

So in summary, I’m afraid we’ve rather sat on your idea. I know it sucks when you come to an advice blog and they tear down your idea, but if you’re going for realism it looks like your situation is very unlikely. You could find some way to also destroy the digital backups if your villain is clever, or incorporate the backups as a way for the government to get everything rolling again after the crash. I’m sure if all credit cards stopped working and the banks had to manually sort out the hard copies of everyone’s finances there would be a lot of frustration and quite possibly riots etc. to provide the chaos you’re looking for, and it would probably take quite a while to sort out. As for people who would benefit, I suppose those with a lot of cash on hand or goods to trade and barter (if the situation gets that desperate) might be better off than your ordinary Joe, but off the top of my head I can’t think of many people who would benefit from the total collapse of the digital economy other than hedgefunds massively shorting on banks shares and government bonds (and if you want me to explain that concept, feel free to send a follow up ask but it’s currently a topic for another day). But if your villain wants to make money from this, betting against banks and other businesses with a lot to lose sounds like a good plan; I’d definitely suggest they sell any Bitcoins they might have!

So while I fear that this might not be what you wanted to hear, I hope that it helps you out somewhat. Good luck with your writing!xx

so if two characters from similar but ultimately still seperate universes met via character a trying to give character b money, what could some subtle but still obvious changes be to a five dollar bill?

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Disclaimer: I’m not American. I have been to Aamerica once or twice, but I’m not entirely convinced I’ve ever held a five dollar bill.

Pretending to myself that this was about a British five pound note, I concluded that a good way to go about this would be to look at security features. Security features on notes are added to make counterfeiting more difficult, and they get more and more complex with each new release of new notes in order to stay ahead of the fraudsters. This: http://currencyguide.eu/usd-en/5usd-en.html seems like a reasonable website to jumpstart a few ideas, but I’ll list a few things you could change below anyway:

Hue/colour -this is a lot easier to describe than some of the more complex security features, and it could be subtle enough not to be immediately blindingly obvious, but evident upon closer inspection.

Lincoln -now, I’m not sure fully switching out old Abe for another, alternate universe historical figure would count as ‘subtle’, but you could change up Lincoln’s appearance. I understand he doesn’t have a top hat on the bill, so maybe give him one? Or scrap the facial hair. Or give him a stripey pink mohawk. Y’know, subtle.

Sigil of freedom -this one depends on how different your other world is. How American is America? Maybe they went for a wolf as their animal of freedom, instead of an eagle. Maybe the shield motif was never immortalised. But the sigil is quite small, so making it different could be a very subtle but ultimately universe exploring way of making the changes you after.

Of course, combining a few of these ideas will probably make for a longer and more complex realisation process. How similar is similar in terms of two different universes? I think you could have a lot of fun with this, and indeed I hope you do!xx

Hi, sorry, this is about the economic conference stuff. I was thinking about macroeconomics, though esp. public economics or labor economics I guess (those two are my v. tentative areas of interest), when I was asking the question. I guess when I asked the questions about conferences, I was thinking about the AEA Annual Meeting that I read on Noahpinion a while back, though those kinds of all-encompassing conferences are probs rarer. I'm not still quite sure what economists do, though, otherwise

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Shoot, sorry, I just read your bio and realized you're British. I was asking mainly from an American POV, so not sure how much that changes things 

Okay, so in all honesty before this ask I'd never heard of the ASSA/AEA Annual Meeting. Now, I really want to go, if only to go heckle the 2017 Presidential Address to said convention.

Otherwise, I know nothing about economic conferences, especially huge American ones like that where I'm guessing only well-respected professors are asked to present. So unfortunately, I can't help with that. I have, however, utilised a very useful contact, so here’s a very helpful interlude from guest mod M:

Depending on the conference, all kinds of people present! Some aren’t even necessarily economists by trade. A lot of postgrad/grad students, and also occasionally undergrads (depending on the conference), go to present research, listen to presentations, and network. Sometimes research grants may require you to present at a conference. There are really so many different types of conferences and each has their own requirements, submission guidelines, focuses, etc. If the conference is very important to the plot, you may want to custom tailor the conference to your needs.
I would really recommend having a very specific focus, more so than just public economics or labor economies, when it comes to research. You could then design a conference focusing just on public economics and have a character present on the efficiency of microcredit programs in regards to increasing community food security in a specific region. It would totally be realistic to only listen half-heartedly to the presentation (unless it’s on your exact research topic) because let’s be honest, 75% of them are super dull and many grad students only go to conferences because it’s essentially a fully (or at least mostly) paid vacation and gets you away from your crammed corner in your department (and has free food!!!). If you are going to network, plan on having at least two “good” questions for the presenter before you even go to the presentation, and adapt your questions around the presentation (absolutely do not ask a question that was already explicitly addressed or else you look really bad).
Also many conferences have cocktail hours. This is bomb because free food and drinks (aka literally the best thing ever for broke postgrad students). Great for networking. Everyone wants to talk about their research and will be pretty pleased if you remember their projects and ask about them. Honestly, I fully have attended conferences/presentations for just the free food. If your University is hosting a conference, even better, because it is totally easy to sneak into other conferences (like a physics conference or something idk) and steal their food. Usually conferences are hosted at convention centers, but smaller ones are can hosted at universities or hotels.

A big thank you to guest mod M for her help!

If you really need a conference for your plot, I would suggest you either a) do a beforehand to afterwards transition focusing more on the emotions of your character(s) so you don’t have to somehow gain a PhD level understanding of public/labour economics, or if you really need to show what's going on in there, you can come back to me and we can try to BS an academic paper/panel discussion together. As M said, it will probably be helpful to limit the breadth of your conference massively, so you can limit your own research. One talk topic to research versus the whole of public economics should save you a lot of time.

As for what economists do: well, pretty much everything. But since you mentioned a professor/PhD student before, I'll focus on academic study, specifically on labour or public economics. Professors will be taking undergrad lectures and seminars, and while I don’t know exactly how postgrads and professors interact, I do know that (in the UK at least) postgrads often help out by taking some seminars. Both professors and postgrads will also have their own research projects, professors because they need the money and postgrads to get their masters or, in your case, PhD.

What they teach and indeed what they’re researching will depend on the institution. Some universities will have an economics department that specialise in labour or public economics, which means that your professor can teach a very small, specific area of their discipline (which would probably mean less research for you, as you could just go very in depth into one area). A postgrad will usually target an institution that is somewhat renowned for or specialises in their chosen topic of study too, so they can benefit from the extra knowledge and expertise. If your professor worked at a university that doesn’t specialise in those disciplines, they might be one of two or even the only professor of their subject, which means they’ll probably teach a very broad base course touching on just about everything about their topic, and not much else.

After the long wait for this response, I really hope it helps you out. I can only apologise for the wait, and to everyone else that’s waiting. All I can say is that I take too many classes, run too many blogs, and have too little time. Again, my apologies, and I hope this helps!xx

In the post-nuclear-apocalyptic videogame series Fallout, the primary currency in use is bottle caps (there are others, but this is the primary one). Is this totally unreasonable, or somewhat plausible? (By the end of the games, the protagonist is typically carrying several thousand at the same time).

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I’m coming to the very rapid conclusion that I need to make a currency masterpost :D.

Disclaimer: I’ve never played Fallout, so I only have what information you’ve given me. I’m not sure if never having played Fallout is one of the original sins, but please forgive me for my video game ignorance.

What we need to do is take a look at the key characteristics and functions of money. This http://www.tutor2u.net/economics/reference/characteristics-and-functions-of-money is my go to educational link on the topic.

So, let’s look at the key characteristics of money. Plastic or metal bottle caps will be pretty damn durable. Portable? I would’ve said yes, but the fact that the character ends up carrying thousands by the end makes me pause. Imagine if a real person had to lug thousands of bottle caps around every day. Not very practical. Then again, post-apocalyptic probably means no digital money, no credit cards etc. so this might simply be the only available option. Lugging around notes and coins would probably be just as bad. Bottle caps aren’t divisible or particularly difficult to counterfeit, but I’m guessing that people accept them as currency and they will hold value over time.

Bottle caps will also fulfil all four key functions of money.

So a perfect currency? Not quite. But it’s better than bartering, pretty plausible, and after the apocalypse I’d say it’s probably as good as it’s going to get.xx

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I return! So ever since I realised that I didn’t have anon asks turned on (because Mod Econ is a technological idiot) and figured out how to switch them on, I’ve been getting recommendations about two videos relevant to this ask:

and 

I’m struggling for time at the moment so I haven’t actually watched them myself, meaning I can’t vouch for their accuracy. But the Script Fam is all about information distribution, and if I can link the recommendations of multiple anons to this ask I think that’s a darn good thing!

Have fun with this, Fallout fans, and thanks to all my dear Anons for your help. xx

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