i have no exciting advice to offer, just:
- we dont care about streaming and voting here
- reblog things
- do not save gifs and repost them under ANY circumstances
- we dont entertain fanwars at all
- interaction is your new best friend
- nobody cares if you were a big twt acc, nobody can see your follower number here. it means nothing
i agree with everything here except with the influx of twt users, the not caring about streaming/voting will (and SHOULD) change. it's weird to call yourself a supporter of a group and proudly express that you don't care about things that are important to their achievements. if you don't know why these things are important, your new twitter friends will be happy to explain it to you :)
i guarantee you are not going to change the minds of people who dont want to engage in streaming and voting. its weird to call yourself a supporter of a group and proudly belittle others who do not have the time or energy to devote to streaming and voting and who choose to support their faves in other ways that voters/streamers deem as not good enough
you're not going to find excessive posts dedicated to voting and streaming here, sorry
this whole mindset of fans needing to accomplish things to be valid is so toxic. how about we let people enjoy what they enjoy, idk just a thought
The fact of the matter is that kpop fans don't owe artists anything. Nothing.
The kpop industry is using them to make you feel like you do. The kpop industry wants you to believe - and wants it badly - that you, personally, not spending enough of your time and money on a 16 year old is the reason their dreams are crushed. They want you to be emotionally invested in these artists, their dreams, their desires, their wins, their fails. And they want you to feel a sense of duty to them, because ultimately the more you feel you have an obligation to a kpop star or group the harder you will work to make them successful (and the less hard the company has to work to do the same). Every ad you buy is an ad the company doesn't have to. Every time you blame the fanbase is a time the company gets off scot-free.
It's part of the parasocial nature of kpop. It's why you get fans who genuinely want the fanbase to apologize to the group when they don't win music shows or fan-voted awards. It's why you get fans literally emailing the company en masse over scheduling conflicts. It's why you get fans spending personal income on music video advertisements on youtube or in times square.
And it's not healthy. You are not responsible for a korean 14 year old girl who wants to be famous one day, regardless of how cute, talented, or charismatic she is. You are not responsible for a 17 year old korean boy who wants to be a songwriter and for god's sake you're not responsible for any 29 year old korean man.
But the belief that you are is why people stream and vote so hard and get so upset when it doesn't pan out. Why wasn't the group successful? Probably because their company didn't promote them well, didn't release music the gp wanted to hear, didn't have the funds to advertise more, or just wasn't a good fit with the industry. But according to twitter, it's you. And fans will go to any length to artificially inflate their groups so they look like they're gaining traction they aren't.
And you see this with groups like Loona. I love Loona. I want Loona to succeed more than almost any other group in the industry. But people are so desperate to inflate Loona's numbers artificially that Orbits get called out for botting and fake voting way more often than other fandoms. "Orbits are bad because they don't st-" if there were enough Orbits, enough of them would stream. If Loona was actually as popular as we all want it to be, that would reflect on the charts. Period.
And so some of us, while we like the artist's music, just don't want to buy into the whole weirdly parasocial implication that anyone other than the artist and the company is responsible for making the group successful, or that the group ought to somehow be beating Blackpink and BTS and Twice at music shows despite not even being 1/4th as popular. That's a normal way to look at music. In fact, the Kpop industry is probably one of the only industries in the world who considers "regularly keeping up with a group's releases, talking about them all the time, and going to shows if possible" to be "casual listening". And it would be fine if you guys would admit you vote and stream all the time out of an abundance of passion. Because you like it. Because you have nothing better to do, so why shouldn't you spend your time doing whatever you want? That's respectable. We all have niche hobbies. Make as many emails as you want. Use as many VPNs as you gotta to get to those Korean charts. It's idiosyncratic, but certainly within your rights.
But instead you mfs pretend it's a bare minimum requirement to even like the group at all, and it's fucking weird.