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100% M3:ToE Black Butler

@abybweissekuromother3

A place for me to keep all my Mother3: Theory of Everything posts together
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abybweisse
Anonymous asked:

Just wondering...."Al" could stand for Alexis (Alexis Loen?), Alexander or Alexandra? Or Aleister (Viscount Druitt?) ? Or maybe possibly...Albert. Who knows? Maybe Undertaker and Real Ciel kept a dog named after Prince Albert and had it guard Layla 🤣

Al by any other name

Alexis Midford? 👎 I don't even want to think about what would have had to happen to Alexis for him to now be that caught up in the Aurora Society. We last saw him in ch151, and he was just getting real Ciel's fake return story.

Alexander or Alexandra? Possibly an Alex of some sort. I kind of like the idea of Alexandra or Alexandria -- ooh, or Alexa -- if Layla and Al are the two Vega lords. Because it would explain Al being another girl. I'm still not sold (yet) on them being Vega, though.

Aleister, aka Druitt? 👎 He might be a fool, but he's definitely not the sort of fool to ever rely on for protection. I can't understand a situation where Druitt would be sent to some sanatorium to watch over a nosy bizarre doll with a biting habit. Still involved with the Aurora Society? Probably. But this kind of duty? Nah.

Albert? Possibly, but probably not as any reference to the late Prince Albert, unless he just happens to be named after the prince.

The only other thing I can think of, besides this Al just being Al, is for an anagram of Layla. The only one that sounds name-like (to me) is Allya. It would be another case of them making up Vega, but it seems unlikely. Still, Al could just really be Al.

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@tehgreatboo "Yana.... So help me, I swear.... Don't even think about it, Yana.... 😑"

@tiff-taf-touf Oh... shit. I hope not.... 🫣 Alex B. died so long ago that Undertaker didn't have nearly this much technique back then. Recall that he says his techniques weren't even up to snuff when he collected real Ciel's body from the ritual location. Imagine the horrible physical condition of Alex B's body... just waiting decades to be fixed up like real Ciel and the other lords of the stars. I don't think this one could be presentable in public....

@enchantingllamathing That's an interesting tactic. However, she continues to call out his name as she's running outside.

This suggests she was really hoping Al would show up back there and rescue her.

Maybe Ronald isn't in ch188 because he's too busy out of frame... dealing with Al?!?

Here's my recent post about the meaning of Layla.

And above ⬆️ is a post I did about Al.

Then today I saw this post by @xxcelephais about Al. Well, sure enough, Alyal, which I ignored but shouldn't have, really does have a meaning pretty much like Layla. The backwards spelling has essentially the same meaning, maybe even a stronger version of the same thing. "Very dark long (night)". Damn.

If Yana-san gives us Alyal, then two things:

  1. Layla and Alyal probably would be Lord Vega and...
  2. This increases the chances of Ciel's younger twin also having an anagram name, like the Elic I keep "promoting".
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crocthello

if anyone has any weird/crack/bespoke/realistic theories about the ending of kuroshitsuji then please tell me about it

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abybweisse

Mostly, I theorize all of this for the end:

  • Our earl will get his revenge (against the queen, perhaps?), just like Lucas against King Porky in Mother3. King Porky survives, so I expect Queen Victoria to survive, too... unless someone replaces her with a "spare". 😆 The main adversaries in Mother2 are Pokey Minch (earlier version of King Porky) and Giygas (an alien who went mad and became an ethereal entity of pure evil and hatred), and Pokey/Porky is under Giygas' influence, so what we get here might be more like Queen Victoria under the influence of John Brown (and that Prince Albert hand puppet), and our earl gets his biggest/main revenge against John Brown.
  • Our earl will have a final confrontation with real Ciel, just like Lucas against Claus near the end of Mother3. In both cases, this is a fight between two mirror twin brothers, and also in both cases, the younger mirror twin is a protagonist, and the older mirror twin is dead, reanimated and basically reprogrammed to act as an adversary. Claus eventually gives up and sacrifices what's left of himself for his younger mirror twin to "win" their fight. I expect real Ciel to eventually do the same for his younger mirror twin.
  • That last confrontation might happen on the eve of the twins' 14th birthday, so that would be December 13, 1889, historically a Friday the 13th. In Mother3, Lucas officially starts making real strides in his own quest for revenge three years after his mother gets killed and his older mirror twin brother goes missing (he's dead at the bottom of a cliff, but the protags don't know that). The majority of Mother3's action takes place within one last 12 month period. In Black Butler, all the action since ch14 has (so far!) been within the same 12 month period: December 14, 1888 to December 14, 1889. Mother3 ends without Lucas celebrating his 14th birthday, so it's quite possible that our earl doesn't even live to celebrate his 14th birthday.
  • Undertaker (and possibly others) will probably try one last time to break the contract between our earl and Sebastian, but this should ultimately fail, and Sebastian should eventually claim and devour our earl's soul. Anyone's attempt to break the contract might instead accidentally strengthen the terms of it. Just like Mother3's Lucas finally pulls up the last needle guarded by a Magypsy and awakens the Dark Dragon, to whom Lucas must give his "heart". Lucas doesn't really want to fulfill a prophecy, but everything he does (spurned on by a desire for revenge) and everything his adversaries do just ends up getting him closer and closer to fulfilling it. The Dark Dragon has to follow the will of whoever gives it their heart, so Sebastian is already following our earl's orders, but when Sebastian devours our earl's soul, he might have one last order to follow.
  • When Sebastian devours our earl's soul, it should have a strong effect on the demon. Maybe because the demon has now devoured the souls of both twins? Kind of like a flashback scene in Mother3, where their mother says the twins will be stronger together. Or maybe our earl's soul has such a strong effect because of how deeply he feels things, like love, regret, a sense of loss, etc. These would be the same feelings the demon previously tells Beast he doesn't understand a "jot" about "yet". Foreshadowing that he should eventually learn what these human emotions feel like. It would finally provide the character development that's been mostly lacking, so far, in the series. It's difficult to significantly change a demon; it probably takes something really major to do so. He might even finally cry for emotion reasons.
  • When Sebastian feels all these emotions that are largely new to him, he might have some extreme reaction to it, beyond just crying. In Mother3, when the Dark Dragon wakes up, the first thing it does (as it physically rises up) is to cause an apocalyptic event. How that would translate to Sebastian's reaction to our earl's soul, I'm not entirely sure, but it might also have some destructive aspect or element to it.
  • After the Dark Dragon causes havoc, its power heals the sick and injured. However, its power cannot bring the dead back to life. The screen cuts to black, and the player is now in the game instead of directing the actions of the playable characters. In the darkness, other characters interact directly with the player and explain that they are "ok". They are wandering around in this "darkness", finding each other and starting the long process of rebuilding their world. Similarly, in the Kuroverse, the series might end with Sebastian causing one last extreme event or seeing through a last direct order from his young master (who is now gone, unlike Lucas). This could mean having to help the survivors in some way. Then the demon might actually feel "satisfied" and leave, returning to his own realm. This leaves the survivors to move on with their lives, and we could get that as an epilogue, either narrated by a single POV (a viewer) or shown by the POV's of various other characters.

This is all based on Mother3 theory, in turn based on the packaging for "Mouse3" by "Ninkyodo" -- shown quite dramatically in ch1, briefly vague-mentioned in ch2 as "the game", briefly vague-mentioned in ch3 as the "drugs" and "evidence", and shown again in two panels of ch4. The game packaging was used to smuggle the drugs into England from Italy.

Ch1:

Ch2:

Ch3:

Ch4:

How do you like this ending?

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abybweisse

Hello! I would love to hear your take on a theory I’ve heard, maybe you’ve already done something about it but —

The theory that the phantomhives are actually of Irish/Scottish/Celtic decent and that’s part of the reason Victoria (supposedly) wiped them out. Also kind of explains the “Windsor incident” and the “sour faces” of relatives at the mention of the twins names (I realize Ciel is French—I believe? But still!)

I just wanna sing ancient Celtic tunes to OCiel 😭 hits home for me because my lineage is extremely Irish and German, and I know how horribly they treated anyone Irish or Scottish at that time, even in America. So sad to think this might be the case, albeit with a supernatural twist

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Celtic roots?

There has been discussion of that possibility within the fandom, and I've had a few posts and reblogs that talk about it.

For one thing, some in the fandom think our earl (who only pretends to be Ciel) might have named Finny after himself. A specific book has been shown on two separate occasions in the manga: Fenian Cycle: Celtic Mythology.

In ch100, it's shown several times, as our earl explains to Finny why he's chosen that name for him.

And it's shown again on the cover of ch132.

Now, our earl selects the name for Finny because of his blond hair and his strength. And years later, when our earl joins the circus, he calls himself Finnian. Some people think this is a clue that it's his real given name, and perhaps he has never liked it because it doesn't fit: he doesn't have blond hair, and he's not all that physically fast, strong, or healthy. Canonically, Rachel is the one to name the boys, and I personally cannot see her choosing a name like that for our earl. He didn't show signs of asthma until he was 5 or so, but he obviously doesn't have blond hair, and I expect Rachel to choose a more fitting name for him. Preferably one that works well with "Ciel" (like Claus and Lucas, mirror twin brothers in Mother3, having anagram names). That's one of the reasons why I like the name Elic. (I also like that it means "protection", much like Alex.) However, the idea that our earl is really Finnian (or some spelling variant) persists within the fandom.

I think it's more likely that our earl just fondly remembers Vincent reading the book to him, but it's interesting that the book is shown again on a cover page, with Vincent reading to the boys, and the tag line is "Gazing at the promised future". The chapter includes Vincent showing the boys around the estate and their earldom, but that cover also happens to show the boys "gazing" at the book. This could be a hint that the family is indeed of Celtic origins, or at least partly, despite the fact the image looks more like "gazing at the fabled past".

Then Yana-san revealed the cover art for Artworks 3, and wow. That's a lot of tartans and thistles. She mixes so many different tartan patterns that we cannot really say the family must be from one particular clan or another. But it's really interesting for her to choose all these tartans and pair them with a bunch of thistle, Scotland's national flower. There are even thistles on his boots.

Here and here are a couple old posts about it, including the symbolic meaning of thistles (includes some Japanese flower language meanings, too). Notice thistles are often associated with "protection". (Makes me like the name Elic even more.)

If the twins have some Celtic roots, it might not actually be on the Phantomhive side so much as Rachel's side. Her sister and father have that red hair, after all, and so-called "Gingers" have suffered discrimination for a very long time, particularly in England. Vincent might have wanted to teach his boys to appreciate and take pride in their partly Celtic heritage.

If Rachel has a strong Celtic background, then Vincent's choice to marry her might have ruffled some feathers. Perhaps family and people in the peerage didn't think it was a good idea; maybe this made Queen Victoria angry. Keeping all this in mind (and making a point of it), the decidedly strong-willed Rachel might have selected names that reflect each side of the family. Something French for the firstborn... and something Celtic for the unexpected twin? (Idk exactly where Elic comes from, but it looks/sounds Celtic, doesn't it? Oh, hey. Look. CELTIC. 😆)

Every time I look up "Elic name meaning" online, I get different results for both the meaning and origin, but when I looked a moment ago, this was from one of the top websites (Names.com):

Another website says it's Greek in origin and means "defender of mankind", a variation of Alec. Older website entries used to give a similar meaning (protection/protector of man) but claim it's Hungarian or something. So, nothing conclusive, of course, but gosh I hope our earl ends up being Elic. I really do. It's one of the major Mother3 predictions, so of course I'm fond of it. 😅

Speaking of lineage, mine is English, German, Irish, Scottish, French, and Dutch. My first name, Arran, is after the Isle of Arran (Scottish). My last name, Walker, is supposedly from the MacGregor clan, while my Allison ancestors (married into the Walkers about six generations ago) came from the MacAlister clan, straight from Somerled himself! Then again, being a descendent of Somerled is somewhat common. Roughly 500,000 people today are. Only Genghis Khan is documented as having more -- about 16 million. Big oof 😅.

BONUS:

Another person to mix with the Phantomhives could prove to be of Celtic decent.

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abybweisse
Anonymous asked:

Rciel has major yandere vibes😬

I did a search for "yandere" in my main and found at least ten posts, mostly about real Ciel.

It's a common label used for him, though I'm not entirely sure how warranted it is. Keep in mind that he hadn't been particularly hurtful towards his younger twin before the sacrifice. There was one argument about Santa's existence, and that might be the worst argument they'd had, until real Ciel returns as a bizarre doll and basically challenges his brother to a "real fight".

It's important to remember what happens to him the day of the sacrifice and since then. He has no soul (devoured by Sebastian), and he's currently running on a combo of blood transfusions and cinematic records that have been altered to make him focus on specific goals. As far as the yandere trope goes, this is a cool explanation. He literally can't help being a total psycho because someone has messed up his brain, and he has no soul to guide his actions. It's comparable to having no real conscience.

Imagine what Pinocchio would be like without Jiminy Cricket. In the original story, when Pinocchio refuses to listen, the un-named cricket states, "You are a puppet and what's worse is that you have a head of wood", then Pinocchio throws a mallet at the cricket, killing him. The cricket comes back as a ghost, but Pinocchio ends up committing suicide by hanging. Like Hans Christian Andersen, Carlo Collodi was all about writing scary stories to fill children with the fear of god, basically. Naughty children are severely punished. Collodi wrote The Adventures of Pinocchio in 1883. And Disney, as usual, made their later movie version not quite as scary, but the name Jiminy Cricket was a common euphemism for "Jesus Christ". Anyway, Pinocchio without Jiminy Cricket is a lot like bizarre doll real Ciel. Altered cinematic records provide a goal but not a moral compass. Therefore, he will use whatever means to an end. Even our earl seems to have his limits, regarding what's acceptable, like casualties. Real Ciel doesn't seem to have those. But, given his circumstances, I find it kind of hard to blame him. We will have to wait and see just how bad things get, as well as whatever finally gets through to him... because I predict something should eventually get through to him.

Or, if you want me to get into Mother3 theory, real Ciel is like the Masked Man, aka the commander of the Pigmask Army. Turns out he was the older mirror twin, Claus, and after he died, his body was reanimated into a Fascinating Chimera. The Magypsies (parallels to Kuro's reapers) say he's "heartless". And if this "heartless" version of Claus were to fulfill the prophecy and waken the Dark Dragon, it would likely mean the destruction of the world. King Porky didn't even know the commander of his army was once a human being; he always called him his "robot". Which is why I wonder what will happen if/when real Ciel presents himself to Queen Victoria to officially take over as her watchdog....

And now I'm probably just rambling.

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About my prediction that something should get through to him....

Pinocchio and Claus/Masked Man have something very important in common: Pinocchio eventually kills himself, and Claus (once he's reminded how he used to be human) sacrifices himself to let his younger mirror twin, Lucas, win their final battle. Similarly, I'm expecting real Ciel to eventually give up and let our earl "win".

I'm just waiting to see why and how real Ciel finally gives up. 👀

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abybweisse
Anonymous asked:

Beyond Bard's arc, do you think Ada might be relevant to the story?

Maybe not so much to our earl and Sebastian's story, beyond any help she provides to Baldo, but possibly to humanity's story within the Kuroverse.

If she survives, she might continue to help people, mostly by helping to popularize Florence Nightingale's ideas about nursing and hospitals.

That's why I'm curious to see whether Ronald would give her a shinigami pass, if she is fatally wounded.

If the big Mother3 theory prediction holds out, Ada might be instrumental as one of the survivors picking up the pieces in the aftermath of the twins' final confrontation (and Sebastian claiming our earl's soul as payment for completing the contract).

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abybweisse
Anonymous asked:

What do you think Sebastian true form is? I mean I know he can transform into whatever, but I don’t remember where I read this it said that his true form is a dragon.

Sebastian's true form?

In artwork for a chapter cover, during the green witch arc, Sebastian's reflection in a mirror looks like a black or smoky dragon with large, curved horns. Yeah, for ch88:

And part of my Mother3 theory has Sebastian paralleling two major roles in the game: Boney, the loyal family dog (when he's under contract/acting like a loyal butler) and the Dark Dragon (when he's not under contract or when he's behaving demonically). Here's an older post about this topic.

So far, the manga has supported this theory quite well, including this part about Sebastian. A loyal family dog in the game and named after a loyal family dog in the manga. A powerful dragon who obeys the will of the person who gives it their "heart" and a powerful demon who obeys the commands of the person who offers it their soul. Even better that artwork, like for ch88, occasionally depicts him as a "dark dragon". And awesome, imho, that "dark dragon" and "black butler" both use alliteration and similar adjectives.

Ah, but for the title page of ch139, he claims "I, who am nothing... can become anything."

So, I think that it's quite possible the demon is most-naturally an amorphous, inter-dimensional Eldritch abomination. No real shape that humans can perceive too well. An inky blob that changes shape at will. When he's able to take a luxurious nap, he might essentially look like an inky puddle draped across its surroundings. Or the demon finds a cozy place to be contained. Much like a cat that drapes itself across the furniture... or finds a box and does the whole "if I fits, I sits" thing. 😆

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abybweisse

A new leitmotif approach

I asked @georgemandom (through FB) to compose a new short piece for Undertaker's leitmotif, and he's agreed to give it a try.

Now I'm taking...

...and reading the last initials from right to left, as Yana-san probably would have intended, taking Japanese reading order into account. Then taking the starting E, the existence of an F#, and all the others being natural to suggest it's in the key of E minor.

So, the new composition challenge is:

  • E D G F# B A C
  • Key of E minor, mournful
  • Victorian sensibilities (or older)

Let's see what we get!

Anyone else who wants to accept the challenge is welcome.

Since I posted about this on FB, my mom popped up to say how much my dad would have loved to discuss stuff like this. Then she suggested using "dissonant harmonies", and now that's got me looking at F# Locrian scale, which changes a couple notes, making them all natural except for F#. Locrian has the tritone (a dissonant sound referred to as "the devil's interval"), and one aspect of Undertaker parallels well with Fassad/Locria in Mother3 theory. So.... 🤔

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abybweisse

One possible interpretation of Undertaker’s locket melody….

I can’t explain how all the music stuff works, so here is the message that @georgemandom sent me. And here is that link https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N9P0vP3HjH4

It’s very cool and I like the dissonance. It works for Undertaker :)

Attention, musically-inclined tumblrs! Feel free to play around with this:

Undertaker’s lockets give us a series of musical notes for his melody/leitmotif. It is: CABFGDE or possibly CABF#GDE. I arrived at his from:

Emile C Oliver A Alex B Cloudia/Claudia P(hantomhive), so F or F# Mally/Molly G Gilbert D Harry E

Let me know what you come up with! :D

I’d really like to hear that order of notes turned into a rondo or fugue….

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I don’t know if this can be possible as well, but I noticed that two of the lockets had the initials or name starting with ‘a’ (Oliver. a and alex. B) and it’s not capitalized like the other names. When I looked it up, people who know music usually note small letters as minor notes and capital letters as major notes. So the ‘a’ in Oliver can actually be an ‘a’ minor? 

Back to the leitmotif!

Interesting idea, and I guess you mean from this image?

The “A” for Oliver’s last initial does seem smaller than the “A” for Alex, making Oliver’s last initial seem like a lower-case letter “a”.

However, the A natural minor scale (which is in the same key as C major scale) doesn’t have any flats or sharps, so that would make that “P” become nonsense… unless we take the “Ph” of Phantomhive to be F (no flat or sharp). But I find that terribly weird. “P” really should be an F# (or an Fb, which is the same as E in the C major scale). Chances are, the “P” is F#, so we aren’t talking about a hint to playing all the notes with the A minor scale. Besides, if we were talking A minor scale, wouldn’t either the first note be A… or the notes would at least resolve on A?

Well, we only get 7 notes, so there’s not exactly resolving on any note.

What we could be seeing, though, is the lower case “a” could denote this is supposed to be a chord instead of a single note. An A minor triad consists of the notes A (root), C (minor third), and E (fifth).

I’m not a musician, and I’ve gathered my info very quickly from looking up stuff about the key of A minor and the A minor chord. I also looked up what scale has an F# and no other sharps or flats, and that’s G major. And this website has this to say about G major: “The key of G-Major is rustic and idyllic. It evokes feelings of tenderness and friendship.” Sounds kind of fitting in regards to mourning lockets, doesn’t it? “Feelings of tenderness and friendship”….

I also looked up C major, since this starts on C. If we accept the P(h) to be F (no sharp, no flat), then we could have the key of C major here. However, that same website says this about C major: “Since there are no sharps or flats in C-Major, it is considered to have a ‘pure’ character. It conveys a sense of innocence and simplicity.” And I have a harder time believing “innocence and simplicity” over “tenderness and friendship”.

Of course, it’s also possible that, English not being Yana-san’s first language (and the Roman alphabet being less familiar to her than kanji, etc.), she could have simply drawn Oliver’s last initial a bit smaller than intended. To us, it looks like “a”, but she might have intended it to be “A”. Hard to tell when the “A” in Alex has the same shape, only larger. Keep in mind that this style of “A” just being a larger version of “a” is common in cursive writing! So, I’m pretty sure that’s “Alex”, not “alex”.

Any musician want to weigh in on this, just in case the last initial “A” is intentionally lower-case “a”?

Then, in fairness, I looked to see if any other key also has F# but no other sharps or flats. That would be the key of E minor.

This website explains keys used to express certain emotions.

C major (natural F):

A minor (natural F):

G major (with F#):

E minor (with F#):

So… if I have to choose a key? G major or E minor. E minor might be best, considering the emotions of it. Also, if we read the lockets’ last initials from right to left, since Japanese is read right to left, then Yana-san could be telling us it’s really: E D G F# B A C… in the key of E minor!

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Anonymous asked:

So,what IF the lockets undertaker has with himself orginally belonged to claudia phantomhive herself ?first of all they are just too elegant and also all of them are from the same time period of claudia's life And she is the last person on undertaker's chain so maybe she died and then undertaker added her locket on...It's just a headcanon ofc cuz we literally know nothing of undertaker's lockets but it's possible

Whose lockets?

I used to have a theory that Undertaker treasures these lockets because they are all he has from Vincent, but ch131 shows us Undertaker is already wearing the chain while Vincent is still alive:

It was a slight bummer to realize he couldn't have taken them from Phantomhive Manor in an attempt to save them, or as a memento from Vincent, since that would have matched up with Mother3 incredibly well! Flint (the mirror twins' father) entrusts his Courage Badge ("treasured" family heirloom that's actually the legendary Franklin Badge) to Nippolyte (the eccentric gravedigger) to eventually pass it on to Lucas (the younger mirror twin brother). However, my happiness returned when I realized Vincent could have owned the chain of lockets and similarly entrusted them to Undertaker, quite some time before the attack.

I have to admit it's entirely possible he got the chain from Claudia/Cloudia herself and added a locket for her soon after her death. Then again, the "Courage Badge" is a family heirloom, after all... so... the chain of lockets could be passed down from watchdog to watchdog, and each generation adds lockets of people important to them, the last one being for Claudia/Cloudia, probably added by Vincent (or possibly Undertaker). She was alive when Molly/Mally died but just a little kid; her father, the previous Earl Phantomhive and Queen's Watchdog, would have likely added the oldest lockets to the chain. Either way, it could have eventually gone from mother to son, then it went to Undertaker for safe-keeping, before Vincent dies.

Like Vincent speaks with Diedrich in the same chapter, just before this scene with Undertaker, he might have recently sat Undertaker down (maybe even just before talking to Diedrich), talked about the possibility of dying soon, and handed over the chain of lockets... saying "please keep these safe and pass them over to my heir, when the time is right". That would be a damn near 100% parallel to Flint entrusting Nippolyte with his "treasured" family heirloom... with the instructions to pass it along to Lucas when the time is right.

I noticed an earlier image of Undertaker, when he's sitting on the edge of the pool table, and he's sitting with his legs crossed... so I can't see if he's got the chain of lockets. We just don't know how long he's had them, so we can't tell how he came by them. Whether they came from someone else, collection already started, or he is the one who started the collection.

We also don't know how Gregory Violet ends up with a similar looking chain of lockets when our earl goes to Sphere Music Hall for his special "Sirius" event. Had Undertaker snuck around Phantomhive Manor and taken them back sometime between the events of the Campania and the events at Sphere Music Hall... or is it actually another chain? 🤷🏻‍♀️

I hope we eventually get answers to all this.

I will say, though, in defense of the chain of lockets being Undertaker's the whole time, he has also shown an interest in Alex B's locket, and that's a much earlier death than Claudia/Cloudia's.

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abybweisse
Anonymous asked:

in chapter 60 pages 17-18 , undertaker said something about an "eccentric bunch" who wanted to see the effects of the bizzare doll as weapons , any ideas ?

Eccentric bunch

Too many ideas, but the biggest one I have is that the queen (or John Brown, perhaps on her orders) put together a shell company or some organization to be what Undertaker calls this “eccentric bunch”. So, Undertaker might have done this for the queen without knowing it. And the main reason I’ve considered this idea is what she says to John after our earl makes his report. She thinks the idea of them is dreadful... but would be delighted in having them as "allies".

It’s possible she knew what Undertaker was up to with corpses on the Campania before our earl even went there. Notice that she didn't send him on that assignment. In ch51, he reads about Karnstein Hospital in The Times, and Lau gives him the scoop about the hospital bringing people in (human trafficking) through the docks for experiments. He sends Sebastian to Karnstein Hospital to gather intelligence, and he comes back with information about the Aurora Society, which will have a meeting on the Campania. That's the ship Lizzie just said her family was taking on a trip to the US.

It's entirely possible that the queen didn't really want our earl to know about what was expected to happen there at all, not even the Aurora Society's meeting. He just happens to get wind of it. I always thought it was a weird move to have Double Charles join as travelers on the Campania, away from both Victoria and John Brown, but apparently on her orders... for the anime adaption Book of the Atlantic. Double Charles are not on the ship in the manga. I assumed it was simply because they are popular characters, but the decision might actually be some little hint that the queen is somehow involved in what's going on there.

Anyway, Double Charles in the movie adaptation makes me think Victoria sent them there to keep an eye on our earl, as soon as she found out he was going there to investigate the Aurora Society. Who told her about that? I have to assume John Brown, since I don't think our earl gives her any heads up about going. Not in the manga and not in the movie. Of course, she does later send our earl to investigate Sphere Music Hall, which is also associated with the Aurora Society, but maybe she involves our earl this time because the shady organization is no longer doing things that appeal to her. She's now afraid of things like rebellion.

Honestly, the movie did absolutely nothing to explain why Double Charles are on the ship, and they don't seem to bother keeping tabs on our earl, so -- ugh -- bad writing. Anyway....

If the "eccentric bunch" doesn't belong to the queen, like a group of generals or something, idk who else they would be. Definitely people interested in military research, like the queen is... but maybe not British. Possibly German? 🤷🏻‍♀️ Them being secretly connected to the queen makes the most sense to me, so far. If they are from another country, then Victoria must be pleased that our earl messed up the experiment and told her about the possibility of such "animal weapons".

I wish I could give you more, but I just don't have anything... other than: IF they do belong to the queen, they would be an interesting parallel to Mother3's Pigmask Army, the military might of King Porky. The Pigmask Army takes Dr. Andonuts' instructions for making Fascinating Chimera and starts running their own experiments to create their own versions. And their versions are absolute abominations. They are the ones who turn Claus's body into the Masked Man. King Porky calls him his "robot". That's why I expect Queen Victoria to be pleased if real Ciel becomes her new watchdog....

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So. I reread the Black Butler manga from the beginning after binge reading from where I left off pre-pandemic, and I have Questions and a theory. Spoiler warning: I will be talking about a lot of things from the later half of the manga, post Campania arc, as evidence.

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Runaway Technology

Oh, it’s definitely on purpose. Even when our earl has things that shouldn’t be available yet, Othello validates them by the mere presence of a demon in the kid’s life. Ch125 has Othello explaining that human lives might be extended past their expected death dates, due to the intervention of beings with “knowledge beyond the purview of man”. And this changes those lives. Then he says that demons can fill this role.

So, all the innovative toys that Funtom has produced (like video game consoles and controllers 🎮) and even the TV 📺 that’s at Phantomhive Manor might exist purely because Sebastian is there. Our earl is able to develop the toys with Sebastian’s help, and perhaps the demon simply made the TV exist.

In the case of the blood transfusion/dialysis machines, this is most likely the combination of Undertaker and someone with medical knowledge… like Aleister Chambers, the Viscount of Druitt, which would help explain why Undertaker makes sure to keep the guy alive. Of course, Druitt didn’t build the contraption that supposedly controls the bizarre dolls on the Campania, but that’s because it’s a useless heap of metal just meant to look impressive. Truth is, Druitt might be able to, with the help of a being like Undertaker, design and build all sorts of useful medical equipment. Othello might even be wrong about what knowledge Undertaker has or doesn’t have, regarding medical technology and related subjects.

With Sieglinde, it’s entirely possible she wasn’t even meant to be born, but here she is, and she’s a brilliant inventor. In her case, she doesn’t need a divine being to help her invent stuff. Thanks to our earl and Sebastian, she’s still alive (Sascha and Ludger had expected to collect her and Wolfram’s souls), and so she’s coming up with all sorts of things, most of which we still haven’t seen. Which is a bit scary. When she had the Phantom Five to focus on, she made innovations in acoustics, portable/possibly battery-operated equipment, hydraulics, use of fluorescence, and who knows what else; most of what she’s done she’s never fully explained. But she also made things for herself, like the Spider Legs. Now that Phantom Five is no more, she’s probably focused on the queen’s wishes, and that’s what’s got me worried. When we see her again, we might find that she’s returned to developing weapons.

And we know, in-universe, that Germany is developing its military technology way ahead of schedule. Even as early as the murders arc, we have Charles Grey saying that Germany is ten years ahead of where they should be, and it’s quite possible that, by the time we get to the green witch arc, Germany has pulled a few more decades ahead. Which suggests they either have a few remarkable humans like Sieglinde… or they have at least one divine being assisting human inventors with innovations. I’m quite sure that Grey is human, but this means he most likely overheard this from someone in the queen’s staff who isn’t human. I’m looking 👀 at John Brown, who I think is either a demon or an angel. He could be like a superior with the reaper organization, and I don’t think the superiors are reapers; they should be truly superior to reapers. Anyway, the technologies that the German military has in the Kuroverse are so advanced that even characters are saying it’s too advanced for the era.

That’s part of the problem, and the royal houses have a lot to do with it, particularly Queen Victoria. And it fits Mother3 theory, since King Porky forces the villagers to obey him and use modern technologies they had never seen before (or even thought they needed). It becomes a situation of runaway technology. Or at least an interpretation of the concept. Some things won’t work as intended or might not be as high quality as expected. At some point, they might not even be able to control what they’ve created.

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Mother3 theory; Easter special

Hummingbird Egg

In Mother3, Lucas, Duster, and others are at Osohe Castle looking for the Hummingbird Egg or Egg of Light. Some of the people searching for it are antagonists. Duster loses his memories when he finds and touches the egg. He hides the egg somewhere. He then wanders around (forgetting about Lucas and the others because his memories are gone) and joins a band called DCMC (Desperado Crush Mambo Combo), but having forgotten his name, he gets renamed Lucky. There are now five members: OJ, Magic, Baccio, Lucky, and Shimmy Zmizz. They play at a music hall called Club Titiboo. After Lucas wins a game (rock/paper/scissors) against the other four members of DCMC, Lucky/Duster is released from DCMC and rejoins Lucas’s team, but his memories haven’t returned, so he asks Lucas (and his team) to help him find the egg again. When they finally find the egg again, it’s inside a Clay Golem that seems broken, but it springs back to “life” and runs away. They have to chase it, and when they finally catch up with it again, it’s truly broken down in a trash heap. Reclaiming the egg, Duster’s memories are restored. Which isn’t all good, since that meant all the bad memories, too.

Mother3 also has Fassad (parallel to Undertaker deserting the reaper organization and his later role with the Blue Sect) selling something called Happy Boxes to villagers. The Happy Boxes make villagers obedient to King Porky, and the music of DCMC helps break that trance by creating a trance of its own… sort of.

There’re also a couple things I’d like to briefly bring up about Mother2 (aka EarthBound in the US, the second installment in the game series) here:

  1. There is a band called Runaway Five, (even though it has six members). Ness (main protagonist) saves them from their manager at a theater, actually he does this for them twice, at two different theaters where they worked. First time, they repay him with a ride to another town. Second time, they assist him with defeating an enemy.
  2. There’s this religious cult called Happy Happyism. Their members include the Insane Cultists and most of the Happy Happy villagers. Their main intention is to turn the entire world blue, even if that means literally painting everything blue. Their leader is called Carpainter (a pun on carpenter).

There are already two major parallels to the Hummingbird Egg situation in Black Butler. The first appears in the Easter egg hunt of Ch66, “Frenzy”.

Lizzy’s painted egg

In ch66, there’s a late celebration of Easter (due to the whole Campania thing), and Lizzie shows up with painted eggs for a hunt. Queen Victoria’s butlers (antagonists) show up with painted eggs, too. But the hunt begins when Lizzie hides the egg she painted herself (her father painted the rest of the ones she brought). She tests “Ciel’s” memory by suggesting that they used to do this every Easter (before the attack), and he fails by pretending he knew that. Truth is, this is the first time she’s ever painted one of the eggs, so she’s never had “Ciel” search for a particular egg before. Then the hunt begins, and the antagonists are there, as well as Edward, Soma and Agni, and of course the Phantomhive household. All competing to find and claim Lizzie’s egg first. We know what happens in ch66, so I won’t rehash all the details, but it’s important to note that, afterwards, Lizzie asks herself what has happened to “Ciel’s” memories.

The second major parallel occurs much later, in the blue sect arc.

Phantom Five

This time it’s not about actual eggs because Lizzie’s egg has now been replaced by Lizzie herself. She’s gone missing after refusing to return home from Sphere Music Hall. She’s essentially hiding herself. Edward asks our earl to help him find his sister, who is basically the whole world to him. When Sebastian is sent in to investigate the place and hopefully find Lizzie, he succeeds, but she fights him. He knocks her out and brings her back to the townhouse, but she wakes up, escapes, and runs away.

With Lizzie in hiding again and being uncooperative, it’s time for our earl to do something more drastic (and imaginative) than just sending his butler back to the music hall. But the only reason I see for it to be “start a rival band” and “put Edward in it” is because of Mother3’s DCMC and Duster/Lucky.

With the name Phantom Five, it evokes the Runaway Five from Mother2. But it’s closer in casting to the five members of DCMC in Mother3. Somewhere, I’ve got an old post where I show how the members of DCMC and Phantom Five match up. Oh, here it is, from November 2016! 😆 Anyway, Edward doesn’t change his name, but his stage persona is nothing like his regular personality. Much like when Duster becomes Lucky. And he’s doing it all because he hopes it makes Lizzie return. When Lizzy finally returns (but to Phantomhive Manor), she feels emotionally broken, much like what’s left of that Clay Golem.

I can also see the Runaway Five of Mother2 as a parallel to the Starlight Four, since our earl helps the Prefect Four deal with issues at Weston, and then he later releases them, as Starlight Four, from having to perform anymore at Sphere Music Hall (though Gregory Violet is captured, and the other three go into hiding). Also, we haven’t likely seen the last of them, so who knows what else they will need saving from… before this series is over?

So…. In Black Butler, we have the Blue Sect, instead of Mother2’s Happy Happyism. We have the Starlight Four instead of Mother3’s Happy Boxes and, to a lesser degree, Mother2’s Runaway Five. We have Phantom Five instead of Mother3’s DCMC (and to some extent Mother2’s Runaway Five). We have Edward mostly as Duster, Lizzie as an aspect of Duster but mostly as the Hummingbird Egg (and as Duster’s most powerful weapon). And, of course, we have our earl instead of Mother3’s Lucas (and to a lesser degree, Mother2’s Ness. Finny also strikes me as a parallel to Ness).

Kind of complicated and a bit convoluted, so feel free to ask questions about this in comments, etc., and I’ll try to answer in some more understandable way.

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Why I theorize about Mother3 as the framework for Black Butler....

Yana-san wasn’t sure this manga series would ever get picked up (let alone become a huge industry), so she was tentative about writing arcs that might never see the light of day. HOWEVER, the main plot, the main characters (as well as some more minor ones), and the timeline of the series were planned from the very beginning, and Yana-san told us all about it in just TWO PANELS in CHAPTER ONE.

That first panel is a close-up of irises – Victorian flower language meaning “I have a message for you”.

The second panel is the VERY NEXT PANEL, the game packaging for “Mouse3”.

It’s a direct reference to Nintendo’s Mother3, which had been released in Japan back in April of the same year (2006).

The game revolves around mirror twin boys (with anagram names) who get separated soon after the tragic death of their mother. They are about ten years old. The older twin, Claus, dies (trying to avenge his mother’s death) a bit less than a month later. Lucas stays home for about three years before making his own journey for the same quest (revenge), but now it’s not just for the death of his mother but also for the disappearance of Claus and how all this trauma has made their father utterly useless. They don’t know Claus is dead, since they hadn’t found a body.

He sets out on his quest with his loyal DOG. They infiltrate their enemies, sometimes taking jobs with them, sometimes even dressing the dog up like a human. There’s even a scene in which the DOG is refused entry to a MUSIC HALL because he’s obviously NOT HUMAN. (Think: the two bouncers [Neckbeard and Skinhead] who refuse Boney entry look *very much* like the two thugs who toss Sebastian out of Sphere Music Hall. I’ve posted comparison pics before….) The vast majority of the game is played within a ONE YEAR TIMELINE. (Think: BB ever since chapter 14.)

He ends up with a “treasured” Courage Badge/Franklin Badge (a family heirloom) from someone with strong ties to his family. The person who hands him this “treasure” is the local (and very eccentric) grave keeper. (Think: Undertaker and his “treasured” mourning lockets.)

He gets help along the way by these weird fairy-like Magypsies, though they can be rude at times. All of them appear to be male but have magenta hair and dress as women. They are keeping a Dark Dragon asleep with magic needles. (Think: Grell Sutcliff as the main parallel but also include BB characters seen or associated with various kinds of needles, like Lau, Charles Phipps, Nina, Blavat, etc.) Lucas learns about a prophecy and that he’s able to fulfill it: if he pulls out the most needles, then he will control this Dark Dragon. (Think: having a contract with/being able to control a “Black Butler”.)

Then he finds out that someone else has the same ability to fulfill the prophesy… that this other person is heartless… and that their identities keep getting confused. (Think: the shooter in ch126.) There are even a couple scenes in which Lucas makes a TELEPATHIC CONNECTION to this Masked Man, though he has no idea how or why. (Think: the earl talking to a mirror image of himself in dreams/hallucinations. Also think: the earl thinking Undertaker is with a boy who looks like him, but then he wakes up and sees Sebastian by his bed.)

Two other people join him and become his team:

1. Duster forgets his identity and takes up a new persona in a five-piece band that “undoes” the brainwashing caused by Happy Boxes. His strongest weapons are his SHOES (which he can upgrade during the game). Much of his time is spent trying to find the missing EGG OF LIGHT, which contains his memories. (Think: the duo of Edward [joining the P5] and Lizzie Midford [with her shoes].)

2. Kumatora lives in an old castle that is haunted by the “ghost” of tradition. She always wears a hoodie, can be quite rude and distant, has psychic abilities (telepathy), and hides her true feelings. She disguises herself in a purple hoodie and changes her name to VIOLET in order to infiltrate the enemies. As Violet, she waits tables at a MUSIC HALL. At the end of the game she cries, unable to stop, and it’s apparently the first time she’s ever cried in her life. (Think: Gregory Violet, who was met at the super-traditional Weston College. Also think: Gregory Violet crying/showing emotion when the earl and Sebastian find him in Bath and save his life.)

A villager who had been silent (until he decided it was the right time) tells Lucas all about the history of Nowhere Islands… and how the people had arrived, on a big white boat, with the hopes to start over their lives. (Think: all those references to Noah’s Ark.) They even wiped their memories clean and came up with fake histories. Only this one person was left with his memories intact for the purpose of telling it to the one who will fulfill the prophecy. (I think Tanaka will ultimately fill this role.)

Lucas and his team have to defeat numerous enemies, including one who uses Happy Boxes (delivered by a trained and enslaved monkey) to brainwash the masses. (Think: Blavat Sky using the S4 performances to sway the masses.) Another major enemy they have to defeat is King Porky and his servants/army. (Think: Queen Victoria, Double Charles, and John Brown.)

They are sometimes helped by an eccentric inventor who is obsessed with donuts (offers them to Lucas, too) and driven in his pursuits by CURIOSITY. (Think: Undertaker, his bone-shaped biscuits/cookies, and how he’s driven by curiosity about life and death.) King Porky stole technology from him and even forced him to work on new inventions for his personal benefit. (Think: Queen Victoria wants Bizarre Dolls as “allies” and has Sieglinde Sullivan working for her now.) One of the more interesting inventions is a mobility suit that looks like SPIDER LEGS. (Think: Sieglinde Sullivan.) However, what the inventor is best known for are his FASCINATING CHIMERA. (Think: Undertaker’s Bizarre Dolls.)

After all other enemies have been defeated, the only person standing between Lucas and the last needle is the Masked Man who had previously shown up out of nowhere (from time to time) to mess stuff up and compete to pull needles. It’s the same guy that’s causing all the MISTAKEN IDENTITY issues. It’s the guy who is “HEARTLESS”. He turns out to be Claus, Lucas’ twin who had died ALMOST FOUR YEARS ago. He’s “heartless” because after death he was turned into one of those Fascinating Chimera; he’s a walking corpse programmed with a single purpose: beat Lucas in waking the Dark Dragon. (Think: the real Ciel turned into a Bizarre Doll and “programmed” with an “episode” to seek out his own revenge and to, perhaps, also reclaim his birthright.)

They fight; his friends can’t help him anymore (not even the dog). That “treasured” badge saves Lucas from an attack that would have probably killed him. Then, essentially, a miracle occurs in which the ghost of their mother forces Claus to remember who he was… and that they shouldn’t fight. Claus gives up… as his programming fails… and they reunite just before Claus “dies” a second time. (Think: the earl and real Ciel face off, but not even Sebastian can do much about it… for whatever reason. Perhaps he is busy fighting someone else? And one boy “wins”….)

Then Lucas pulls up the last needle. The Dark Dragon wakes up and causes Armageddon-level havoc before basically resetting things back the way they had been. There is the rubble of destruction everywhere, but the people are ok; the Dark Dragon’s power was even strong enough to return everyone to full health and strength. (Think: Sebastian will follow the will of whichever “Ciel” proves victorious….)

Done. The end.

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THIS is why I spend so much time going on about my Mother3 theory…. :)

Visit @abybweissekuromother3 for more about my theory….

I thought I had already done this, but if it’s floating around somewhere I’m not sure where.

Correction: the ghost of their mother finally talks Claus into giving up, THEN Claus makes the attack that rebounds and hits him.

Update: Tanaka is already (as of ch130) starting to fill in the role of Leder, the village bell-ringer who kept his memories in order to pass all he knew on to the one who should fulfill the prophecy. Now we just need to see what else he might tell the earl (and Sebastian)… particularly if it’s without real Ciel present….

I’d also like to note that the Japanese flower language meanings (there’s more than one) for irises includes the same idea of giving a message.

Also, it’s only because of Duster that Lucas starts looking for the Egg of Light (aka Hummingbird Egg). That egg is another parallel with Lizzie. Our earl only knows to look for Lizzie at Sphere Music Hall because Edward tells him she’s refused to go home and now she seems to have gone missing. That’s also why ch66: “the butler, frenzy” is so important; they are all looking for her painted EGG….

Reblogging to have higher up in my blog. Hopefully, this will help those who read my blog and don’t understand why I keep “yammering on” about some Mother3 theory. This is why. But there’s more to it than even this. Please check out the Tagging Masterpost for links to more stuff about this undying theory of mine.

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